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Your thoughts on our PADI ow cert dives

Discussion in 'New Divers and Those Considering Diving' started by Salt Life, May 2, 2012.

  1. supergaijin

    supergaijin Dive Shop


    To add to the hijack, I see more and more AOW students who have never seen a compass. CMAS 1* doesn't include compass work but PADI OW does as a Standard.
  2. DiveNav

    DiveNav ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Southern California
    Thank you for posting this.

    As others indicated already, this is not a "typical" OW class experience ... but, more than once, I witnessed situations less than acceptable.

    As an example, a couple of weeks ago I was down at our local swimming hole (aka Pacific Ocean) testing a new product we are working on and noticed an OW class that CLEARLY should not have been there; visibility was less than 10ft and the Ocean was not Pacific at all.
    During their exit almost all students got knocked around few times, several of them got dangerously close to the rocks and one of them actually got hurt (slammed against a rock).

    Did those OW students pass the class? I don't know ... I was not their instructor.

    Did those OW students enjoy their OW class that day? I doubt!

    Sometime we should learn to say NO (to the shop, to the students, to our assistants, to ourselves).

    Alberto (aka eDiver)
  3. boulderjohn

    boulderjohn Technical Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Boulder, CO
    You should report both of them. Nothing can be done about substandard classes if they are not reported. Every one of those skills is listed clearly on the pages of the student's log book. The student is supposed to check off that the skills were done. If you see a skill listed that you didn't do, you should first insist that it be done during the class, and if it isn't, you should report it.
  4. dfx

    dfx Regular of the Pub

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Binbrook, ON
    Maybe I should have mentioned that those weren't PADI courses (and one was in Europe)....
  5. boulderjohn

    boulderjohn Technical Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Boulder, CO
    Yes, it probably would have been a good idea to mention it, since the topic of this thread relates to a failure to follow PADI standards during training.
    Karibelle likes this.
  6. MADiveGirl

    MADiveGirl Angel Fish

    # of Dives: 25 - 49
    Location: Boston, Massachusetts, United States
    I had a similar experience - BG and DD is where I did my OW checkout dives back in February, and it was a GREAT location and experience. BG was a little busy at times, but nothing that made poor viz or crazy. We did, however, go into the bell (which I thought was cool as hell) and down to peace rock - the surface was clearly visible from both of those locations and I felt fine about both locations. DD had some spaces where I was a little freaked out, but again, I always knew where the "up" was so it was just more of an occasion of me getting used to a very foreign experience.

    This is NOT to discount what the OP posted - that sounds .... horrible. And if I would have had an experience like that for my checkout dives, I'm not sure how I'd feel about the activity. I'm thankful that mine was much, much different.

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