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Zip Ties for Mouthpieces?

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba Discussions' started by Rob9876, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. Rob9876

    Rob9876 Barracuda

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    Very basic question: is there a specific zip tie size/type that is preferable for securing mouthpieces? I'm assuming these are standard zip ties, and no need to buy scuba-specific ties?
     
  2. JackD342

    JackD342 Dive Shop

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    Yes, just don't get anything too thin or cheap. There is a "no bump" version sold by XS Scuba that I keep on hand for when a service kit doesn't include one, that is a little more scuba friendly, but not by much.
     
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  3. loosenit2

    loosenit2 Solo Diver

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    yes standard zip ties available anywhere, 6 or 8 inch and cut away the excess. May want to file down any extra left so it does not cut your mouth.
     
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  4. happy-diver

    happy-diver Skindiver Just feelin it ScubaBoard Sponsor

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    not the cheapest, but cheap 2 dollar shop type cheap, Aldi specials, supermarket

    anywhere but reputable places that charge more for the same thing
     
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  5. Diver0001

    Diver0001 Instructor, Scuba

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    Scuba specific ties? If they even exist then they are the same zip-ties you buy at the hardware store but in a different package and with a lot higher price tag.

    Just don't use ones that are too big or you will feel the cinching block with your lip. Also the way you secure it should have the cinching block on the side for the same reason.

    R..
     
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  6. divad

    divad Solo Diver

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    Get the outdoor ones for salt and UV resistance. They won't fall apart. Home depot has them. Greenlee, I think.
     
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  7. bmorescuba

    bmorescuba Divemaster

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  8. tbone1004

    tbone1004 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    one of two recommendations
    This one is more secure, uses a stainless steel tongue. Downside is they are still the thick profile and for a mouthpiece in particular, you want to shave the tail
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DEHV36/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    These ones use a low profile locking mechanism which is nicer for mouthpieces IMO
    https://www.amazon.com/Cobra-53112-...bra+tie&qid=1552585959&s=gateway&sr=8-2-fkmr0

    They do need to be a minimum of 7" for mouthpieces as an FYI
     
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  9. Diver0001

    Diver0001 Instructor, Scuba

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    I agree that it isn't really a deep investment, but the price is still 20 times more per tie wrap than the exact same product if you bought it online in a larger quantity.

    Obviously it's not about the money but the fact that some bozo bought a bunch of tie-wraps bulk, repackaged them with no other form of added value whatsoever and is selling them to naive people who are supposed to think that SCUBA tie-wraps are somehow special.... well, that irritates me. It's dishonest in my book, which is as good a reason as any to NOT buy them just on principle alone.

    There is nothing about scuba diving that makes a run-of-the-mill tie-wrap that you might buy at the grocery store unsuitable for securing a mouthpiece.

    That said, there ARE some tie-wraps that are not fit for purpose. I've seen some that were such bad quality that the cable would pull back through the cinching block with ease. We had a batch of these at my work, which was irritating because it caused an hour of delays. That hour cost us more than 50000 tie-wraps of higher quality would have cost us. Long live the "cheap is better" mentality of the purchasing department.

    ... so there is a point of being "penny wise, pound foolish", but the marketing of "scuba specific" doesn't convince me.

    R..
     
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  10. W W Meixner

    W W Meixner Rebreather Pilot

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    Rob...

    Size/type has been addressed...

    The tool shown in attachment is a full time occupant in my dive tool box...tightens the zip tie to a pressure which is adjustable...and snips off the tail just slightly below the surface of the head...no sanding or self-trimming of the sometimes sharp tail end is necessary...

    This gun is from Uline...the ''economy version''...$20...worth every penny...

    Best...

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