land drills

[andrei_c]

Hi everybody!

Hope my request will not be considered silly. I would like to receive advice for some land drills. I “played” different types of ties, lost line, jumps etc. Could this kind of exercises become more complex, more difficult? And if yes, how can I do that?

Thanks

 

[tbone1004]

This is a great video. Once the line is set up, you can treat that as the "gold line" or main line. If you run it back towards itself so you can cut the corner, you can then practice making jumps by tieing off of the main line and back onto it with appropriate arrows and NDL's

 

[andrei_c]

thanks, tbone!
I "eat" already that video. and everything else I found on the internet

 

[andrei_c]

Hope you don't consider me rude, Tbone. Thank you, I really appreciate you quick response!
Beside the video you mentioned, I found interesting stuff on speleotech.com

 

[PfcAJ]

Be mindful of 'practice' in daylight conditions. You won't have the luxury of ambient light in real life.

 

[andrei_c]

Thanks,PfcAJ. I know what you mean. I start my cave training, but want to exercise as much as possible, even when I'm not in the water. I did the land drills my instructor showed me, but I always wander if somethings, no matter what, could be improved.

 

[PhatD1ver]

This is a great video. Once the line is set up, you can treat that as the "gold line" or main line. If you run it back towards itself so you can cut the corner, you can then practice making jumps by tieing off of the main line and back onto it with appropriate arrows and NDL's

Everything except the tie off method at the end of the line. There are more efficient methods that take far less time, especially in a cave environment. A double wrap and tie off with the reel clipped and locked and the double pointed in the direction of the exit is much better. Trying to untie that knot coming out in a hurry or silt out would be impossible, and he even said he hates the easy release version. I know that he continued on down the line, but why tie off like this then?

 

[MikeT73]

Trying to untie that knot coming out in a hurry or silt out would be impossible

You don't do that in those situations anyway. You get the f**k out and get the reel another time.

 

[andrei_c]

totally agree with you MikeT73

 

[PhatD1ver]

You don't do that in those situations anyway. You get the f**k out and get the reel another time.

Why didn't I think of that? lol

Yeah, I'm just not trained for stop and go. Everything is supposed to be smooth and easy, not hover and fiddle. I like the easy release knot, but then he said that he didn't like it because it 'came out' (which defeats the purpose).

How it was demonstrated on when he reeled in was good, but it was his comment about it pulling out while you were past that point on the line concerned me.

I really don't like the need to untie a knot on the way out silting or not.

Excuse me for my lack of experience here. But what situation would warrant using that knot as a tie off inside a cave or wreck? I mean, seems like if you really need a hard tie off, you could use a double ender with a security wrap pointing to the exit.

Thanks