+1 on the AED. CPR is at best only a holding action, the person is just dying more slowly. AED's are now relatively inexpensive and there is no danger using them on a wet surface. I think they should be standard equipment on commercial dive boats
Back from the Dead and Very Much Alive - April 2012 Costa Rica
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+1 on the AED. CPR is at best only a holding action, the person is just dying more slowly. AED's are now relatively inexpensive and there is no danger using them on a wet surface. I think they should be standard equipment on commercial dive boats
brnt999
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I actually just re-certified my First Aid ticket yesterday. During the class it was brought up that enviromental conditions will prevent an AED from picking up the heart beat. For example a machine vibrating nearby or the movement of an ambulance. I wonder if the movement of a boat in the water would prevent an AED from working?
TONY CHANEY
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Might want to add the ResQpod. Every EMS that transport patient's to our hospital use them as well as we used that in every code. I have gotten patients back with it. Very cheap, easy to use and it works. Advanced Circulatory Systems, Inc.
rjk75
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So it sounds like the strong current slammed her into the underwater rocks, knocked her unconscious, and thus the reg popped out of her mouth. Stay within arms-reach of your buddy at all times is my intention when buddy diving.
One correction to the story -- it is NOT recommended to do compression-only CPR with drowning victims.
TONY CHANEY
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markmantei
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From Canadian Red Cross' website (didn't bother to look it up, but American Red Cross has a similar statement).
"Compression-only CPR should not be used when the oxygen in the victim’s body has likely been used up, such as with a drowning victim or when a respiratory emergency may have caused the cardiac arrest. Performing CPR on an infant or child requires rescue breaths. When an infant or child’s heart stops, it’s usually because of a respiratory emergency, such as choking or asthma, which uses up their body’s oxygen."
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Yeah, it'd be nice to drag one on a cart with every hiker, etc. We don't stick to trails much. It's like when you leave civilization, you leave civilization - so you'd better take good care of your team. AEDs are wonderful but you can't save the world.
I saw that when I first read the story, and it is a very popular tale on the net, but the remark is so wrong...!
The_Aviator_1
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The best course of treatment is full CPR with respirations, however, hands only CPR is better than no CPR at all. And in regards to the resqpod it is a threshold impedance device which requires an advanced airway in place. It is highly effective in increasing the effectiveness in CPR by allowing quicker/easier filling of the heart during the relaxed phase of chest compressions. However they run $100 a pop and can quickly add up if you live in an area prone to cardiac arrest.
An AED is cheap insurance for a dive operation, especially when one considers the risk of cardiac incidents in older divers. The newer ones are easily operated. Especially important if there is a time delay in transport to hospital. If there is a defib problem , CPR won't be effective. ( Maybe Aviator can clarify). Anyhow, if I owned a dive boat, that would part of the emergency kit with O2. I would encourage everyone to take CPR, and if your paranoid by the risk of virus etc. carry a barrier in the dive bag. Cheers
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