Implications of dock fee charges

[cvchief]

If it's me I'd just be the biggest, baddest, most profitable dive operation on Cozumel and Iberostar's fees would be so small and meaningless in the big picture they wouldn't matter, and the more they hurt my competitors the more I would like it.

The problem the socialist has is that he thinks Jose's Mini Dive operation that only picks up 2 divers a year from the Iberostar is being hurt by the fees because Jose Mini Dive operation would have to divide the $720 by 2 divers and that would be $360 per diver, so for Jose he is so small that the fee kills him. CV cry's for the little guy, I just say good riddance, you weren't meant to run a successful dive operation, go drive a taxi.

While you made my point nicely, you still have no clue what socialism means. At all really. I guess you didn't take that class.....

If you don't like the future Mike lays out AND you are a socialist, contact the MX government and suggest laws to make the docks public property.

If you do like the future Mike lays out, except the people making money thing AND you're a SERIOUS socialist, just suggest the MX government take over diving altogether. Everyone goes out on a Government boat. Central planning will surely get it correct so we will get the best bang for our buck.

If you don't like the future Mike lays out and aren't a socialist, simply don't stay at Iberostar.

---------- Post added April 28th, 2014 at 02:48 PM ----------

Oh, Mike I PMed you six minutes of YouTube with Friedman on socialism. Maybe that will help you with the concept?

 

[Mike]

The problem the socialist has is that he thinks Jose's Mini Dive operation that only picks up 2 divers a year from the Iberostar is being hurt by the fees because Jose's Mini Dive operation would have to divide the $720 by 2 divers and that would be $360 per diver, so for Jose he is so small that the fee kills him. CV crys for the little guy, he thinks the right thing is to pick and choose which businesses should be protected from other businesses in a free market place, I just say good riddance, you weren't meant to run a successful dive operation, the laws of nature have worked the weak have been thinned from the herd, now go drive a taxi.

When I said CV, I was referring to CVS Pharmacies, if you happened to fit this criteria it was purely a coincidence...

 

[cvchief]

When I said CV, I was referring to CVS Pharmacies, if you happened to fit this criteria it was purely a coincidence...

I would have dumped their stock if I had anything when they said they would stop selling cigarettes. Losing a big profit center. And they still aren't socialists. Do-gooders, maybe.

 

[Texas Diver]

Why not avoid the dock and associated fee by picking up the diver off the beach? What am I missing here?

 

[Skittl1321]

Why not avoid the dock and associated fee by picking up the diver off the beach? What am I missing here?

Some do this.
It just seems that until this dock charge was implemented, it was not typical in Cozumel to ask customers to wade out into the water, and since there is a dock a few steps away, it still highlights the inconvenience to the diver.

 

[Mike]

Some do this.
It just seems that until this dock charge was implemented, it was not typical in Cozumel to ask customers to wade out into the water, and since there is a dock a few steps away, it still highlights the inconvenience to the diver.

What she said

 

[old gaffer]

Back in 2009 I did a week of diving with Scuba with Alison. She had a group of 3 couples that were regular customers of hers that always stayed at the Iberostar. I was a solo diver on the boat. Fun group to dive with but I hated the surface interval because they always went back to the Iberostar and of course I could not even get off the boat. We would go back out and just sit on the water for and hour until it was time to pick them up for the second dive.

Gaffer

 

[Ron Lee]

Back in 2009 I did a week of diving with Scuba with Alison. She had a group of 3 couples that were regular customers of hers that always stayed at the Iberostar. I was a solo diver on the boat. Fun group to dive with but I hated the surface interval because they always went back to the Iberostar and of course I could not even get off the boat. We would go back out and just sit on the water for and hour until it was time to pick them up for the second dive.

Gaffer

That would not be fun. I need my beach time between dives.

 

[Dave Dillehay]

Dear All,

My op is big enough to pay their monthly rate for dock pick ups…but I support the boycott. It is just wrong, in my opinion to charge for basic amenities at a hotel. Yes Mike, they have a right to do whatever they want but the ramifications are in many cases a direct insult to the victims who choose to stay there, and might want an alternative to the on site operator.

In addition, we refuse to pay them even if the traffic would justify it. Such a policy, if expanded, could really hurt those divers who love Cozumel. A boycott with pain for Iberostar may be the best way to nip that in the bud.

Dave Dillehay
Serious Capitalist

 

[Mike]

Back in 2009 I did a week of diving with Scuba with Alison. She had a group of 3 couples that were regular customers of hers that always stayed at the Iberostar. I was a solo diver on the boat. Fun group to dive with but I hated the surface interval because they always went back to the Iberostar and of course I could not even get off the boat. We would go back out and just sit on the water for and hour until it was time to pick them up for the second dive.

Gaffer

I'd find a new dive operation, that's ridiculous.

---------- Post added May 14th, 2014 at 08:25 PM ----------

Some do this.
It just seems that until this dock charge was implemented, it was not typical in Cozumel to ask customers to wade out into the water, and since there is a dock a few steps away, it still highlights the inconvenience to the diver.

I personally have no issues with wading to a boat, call me crazy, but I also dive elsewhere besides Cozumel and it's a pretty typical scenario and as weird as it seems, I actually like it. Some of the most fun diving I've done for instance in Roatan is all like that, the boats anchor at the beach and every morning you wade out and when you come back you wade in, it's like this in many other fun less developed places to dive where there just isn't as much infrastructure. I've also done a lot of private boating and sailing and am used to driving a RIB up onto the beach or going to a secluded beach and wading in, it's just part of the adventure and par for the course. I get the whole valet thing in Cozumel, and I take it and enjoy it, but I can turn it off just as quickly and enjoy what I'm really there for and that's getting underwater. I'm guessing people will be getting their feet wet if they dive with Dave on the east side, unless they built a dock over there.