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I think the OP is referencing the solo diving DMs and instructors often do to set up for a class. When I was a DMC, I was solo when doing my mapping project and because I was spending so much time underwater (I was setting a line between objects to get accurate compass readings), so I was outfitted for solo diving with a pony, cutting tools, etc., pretty much what was needed to get out of dodge. I had no course for this.
When I teach open water, I am there an hour before my students setting up a 44 lb. claw hammer to secure my dive platform and a small lift bag underwater on the other end of the rope to account for the tide going in and out. I don't have redundant air as the surface is so close. When I teach navigation, I set up 100 feet of line at around 20 feet (one end to the chain of an existing buoy and the other with a buoy I bring). So, I am task loaded, not diving for fun, but have to have the SA to ensure I don't get entangled and drown.
Now this may or may not be the experience of other instructors but given that the OP taught in the same waters as me, I'm guessing it is. I cannot speak for other regions of the world.
Risk of litigation trumps all however. It doesn't matter for insurance policies if someone has the experience. It matters if they have the card.
When I teach open water, I am there an hour before my students setting up a 44 lb. claw hammer to secure my dive platform and a small lift bag underwater on the other end of the rope to account for the tide going in and out. I don't have redundant air as the surface is so close. When I teach navigation, I set up 100 feet of line at around 20 feet (one end to the chain of an existing buoy and the other with a buoy I bring). So, I am task loaded, not diving for fun, but have to have the SA to ensure I don't get entangled and drown.
Now this may or may not be the experience of other instructors but given that the OP taught in the same waters as me, I'm guessing it is. I cannot speak for other regions of the world.
Risk of litigation trumps all however. It doesn't matter for insurance policies if someone has the experience. It matters if they have the card.
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This is not legal advise....but, Courts, Fed and State, give a lot of deference to liability waivers when participating in "high risk" activities. Doesn't mean the operator wont find themselves in court, but very often it over before it starts. There is a great quote in a old Fed Court ruling regarding waivers, something like "people wanting to kill themselves", I'll have to find it.
Now this is a different story, some dumb ass instructor gives you a card based on you just telling them how great you are, and then you die, that instructor better hope he/she/they has lots of insurance.....and hope and pray that the insurance policy covers that kind of strokery.
So you are posting in a public forum that you intend to commit fraud? Good move.
Just a tought, is it fraud to fake a scuba cert?
Since scuba agencies involved in litigation always make it a point to say that people carrying their certification cards are not involved with the agency in any way do they have a right to sue someone walking around with a fake card that has nothing to do with them either?
I just feel a need to make a fake PDAI or similar wrong acronym card and go diving with it until i get caught.
Since scuba agencies involved in litigation always make it a point to say that people carrying their certification cards are not involved with the agency in any way do they have a right to sue someone walking around with a fake card that has nothing to do with them either?
I just feel a need to make a fake PDAI or similar wrong acronym card and go diving with it until i get caught.
Robert H. Diver
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May I ask, who exactly the OP would kill while making use of a fraudulent solo cert? LOL
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