dumpsterDiver
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A person can "take" a piece of candy from a candy bowl. A person could "take" a pen and use it to write a letter. A burglar can "take" a TV or a car or valuable jewelery. A person might even "take" a fish and put it in their aquarium at home. None of these instances implies killing, and so while gramatically correct, your sentence would be more accurately descriptive if you said, "...the legal killing of animals." Let's call it what it is. If that seems uncomfortable (and for me it would be), then perhaps there is a reason for it. I don't feel comfortable killing anything, and I don't understand how anyone could be.
...But that's just me.
My main point about my posts had less to do with the slaughter of the animals and more to do with the level of task loading of DD. It wasn't so much that he was killing fish, it's that he was killing fish while filming with two cameras, managing two separate gas supplies (one of which failed), managing a reef hook, managing a dive flag and reel, supervising his 13 year-old son and attempting to escape aggressive marine life that was apparently after his catch. He just seemed really busy and had little or no attention left over to manage the issues that came up during this dive.
...Which, to me, seemed really to be a symptom of his overall attitude to completely, totally inundate himself with too much... Too much gear, too many tasks, and too much responsibility. It didn't seem to me that he needed to take anything more... He already had enough stuff.
...Again, though, that's just my opinion based on the short video he posted. A simple observation by a guy who dives every day. Your opinion may vary.
FWIW, Easter Dinner today included deviled eggs, green salad, collard greens, homemade macaroni and cheese, homemade biscuits, potato cassarole, sauteed pineapple with jalapenos, wine, sweet tea and filtered water. Dessert was homemade lemon pie - my grandmother's recipe.
A delicious ham was also served, which was baked to sheer perfection. That one death fed many people and did not involve any of us having to kill it directly. It came from a farm-raised pig that was bred and raised to provide meat and was delicious. Where it didn't come from was from a reef that's been overfished and is currently in a sad state of underpopulation due to so many people "taking" three or four or more lives every time they take a 20-minute dive.
My plate consisted of maybe 5%-10% meat... A healthy and balanced meal that was sustainable and responsible, both from a personal point of view and from a global perspective.
...But I hate "global activists" just as much as you do - and I don't want to be grouped with them. I am no vegetarian myself - I just believe that there is responsible, balanced eating just as there is responsible, balanced diving... And I did not see an example of that in this video.
Just when I think you can’t say anything more, you come up with the concept that taking a few small fish for dinner is less environmentally responsible (and less ethical) than eating a pig which was presumably raised on a factory farm and slaughtered in a similar “industrial” setting.
In this latest post you say “I don't feel comfortable killing anything, and I don't understand how anyone could be.” However, in an earlier post you make it quite clear that your buddy shot a completely “innocent” alligator in order to “make TV”. Are you so dull that you don’t see the obvious contradictory nature of the posts you continue to make on this thread?
I’ve taught my son to be comfortable killing things. Hunting and fishing is a long standing tradition in this country. It is ethical and sustainable and it helps to teach my son where his food comes. (Pigs don’t come from the fresh meat section of the grocery store).
Probably the most importantly “lesson” I’m trying to deliver is a respect for the creatures that die in order to feed us. They are not wasted or abused or disrespected. We don’t take joy or pride in the actual “killing” the animals, but the challenge of the hunt is something that brings us back to the water on a regular basis.
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