Peer Pressure in Chuuk

[Mike Boswell]

Amy's public profile says she is certified PADI AOW, and she wondered whether it would be okay to dive to 180 feet. The correct answer is short and simple: "No".

 

[Water Monkey]

You made the right decision. The most important rule in SCUBA is to know your limits and dive within them.
I have dove the San Francisco Maru on a single eighty. Not much bottom time, but it is on my top ten list of best dives ever.

 

[Zerovis]

well done it looks like you missed what would have been the last dive of your lifetime

 

[Reg Braithwaite]

You made the right decision. The most important rule in SCUBA is to know your limits and dive within them.
I have dove the San Francisco Maru on a single eighty. Not much bottom time, but it is on my top ten list of best dives ever.

So... Would you say that diving to 165' or more on a single eighty is "within your limits?" Just ot of curiosity, did you dive as part of a team, and if so, were they also diving eighties?

 

[Doubler]

This is why woman make great dive buddies. They listen to that little voice in their head that say's "What the heck are you thinking". We know better BUT we can't let our buddies/fellow divers think we are wimps so we turn off that little voice with the "Macho" switch and pay the price. I know that on occasions my lovely bride/dive buddy has over-ridden my "Macho" switch and she was correct on every occasion, that would be 2.

 

[Nylorac]

The little voice in your head is exactly right.

Your near stranger buddy is an idiot.

The plan is to descend, have a look for 15 minutes tops and then do a 15 min or so deco stop on the way up. This is not even close to being a legitimate plan.

Critical rule: Any diver can abort any dive at any time for any reason, or even no reson at all, I just don't have a warm fuzzy feeling. No one questions an abort.

If you don't know it's a good idea, it's probably a bad one.

Thanks. I learned the Critical Rule during my open water training (it was drilled into us repeatedly) and used it recently when I really didn't feel good about continuing a challening dive :depressed: - I was feeling very uncomfortable and just felt it was time to call the dive. Initially I felt bad about it but was reassured that you need to listen to yourself. There is always another day and another dive.....

 

[Water Monkey]

So... Would you say that diving to 165' or more on a single eighty is "within your limits?" Just ot of curiosity, did you dive as part of a team, and if so, were they also diving eighties?

I new this was coming. I was diving with a group of people that were also diving eighties. Was that dive within my limits, absolutely. Was it reckless abandonment , absolutely. But what it boils down to is that it was an acceptable risk for me, that day, and that dive. Acceptable risk is different for everyone. Sounds like for you that dive would not be an acceptable risk and I’m ok with that. For some people, flying down the freeway at 120 mph on a crotch rocket is an acceptable risk, for me, no way. In the end I get to choose what is and is not an acceptable risk for myself and nobody else. By the way I did have a pony bottle as well that came in handy for the last couple of minutes of the deco stop.

 

[Reg Braithwaite]

I new this was coming. I was diving with a group of people that were also diving eighties. Was that dive within my limits, absolutely. Was it reckless abandonment , absolutely. But what it boils down to is that it was an acceptable risk for me, that day, and that dive. Acceptable risk is different for everyone. Sounds like for you that dive would not be an acceptable risk and I’m ok with that. For some people, flying down the freeway at 120 mph on a crotch rocket is an acceptable risk, for me, no way. In the end I get to choose what is and is not an acceptable risk for myself and nobody else. By the way I did have a pony bottle as well that came in handy for the last couple of minutes of the deco stop.

I don't normally judge other people by my own standards. I have not been trained to dive to 165' in any configuration using any gas, so no dive on that wreck is within my limits. Do you really mean to use the word "reckless?" I understand it to mean marked by defiant disregard for danger or consequences. If so, it makes sense that it was an acceptable risk because the definition of reckless implies that you knew the risk and chose to disregard the danger.

I just wanted to know if you did it fully aware of the risks involved. Others might have done a dive like that and only later discovered what kinds of risk they had taken.

 

[Water Monkey]

I have been trained to dive to 165 and deeper much deeper, but certainly not in that manor. So, yes when I said reckless I meant it. I knew it was dangerous and did it anyway. Sometimes those are the best dives, but unfortunately it could end up being your last.

 

[Web Monkey]

I new this was coming. I was diving with a group of people that were also diving eighties. Was that dive within my limits, absolutely. Was it reckless abandonment , absolutely. But what it boils down to is that it was an acceptable risk for me, that day, and that dive.

Was it an acceptable risk for the guy who comes to you OOA @165'?

Terry