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Battlelines drawn over bluefin tuna ban


Looks like the Japanese are just going to ignore this too if the outcome is not in their favour.

I wonder why they bother joining Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) if they aren't going to follow the general consensus??

 

[Sas]

Dolphins and whales are of the same order Cetacea.

Whale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cetacea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If whales we plentiful and abundant we wouldn't be having this discussion and to my knowledge octopi aren't on endangered, or were on endangered, species lists.

Minke whales are plentiful, actually. Those are what is being hunted. We are having this discussion because people are ignorant about whaling. And also hypocritical and culturally imperialistic.

Pigs are not. Squid are not. Cows are not. Tuna may soon be.

Listen. You made an argument about the intelligence of whales meaning they should not be eaten. If this is your argument, then it also applies to pigs and octopuses, regardless of the fact they are plentiful. Yet you are saying it is ok to eat them because there are a lot of them. Cool. But you realise minke whales are very common? So why should they not be eaten if it is a sustainability issue?

Tuna is a real issue but no one cares. They're too busy caring about minke whales, the cockroaches of the ocean.

 

[Sas]

Also it is octopuses or octopodes, not octopi.

 

[Diver0001]

I am very anti-whaling on several points. I would not support eating chimpanzees becasue they are a little too close to outr intelligence level and whales fall in the same category.

You have to eat something... I think the only logical conclusion to this line of thought if you follow it through is that you either shouldn't get too tense about this or you should become a vegetarian on principle.

Sas: Octopus - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Main Entry: oc·to·pus
Inflected Form(s): plural oc·to·pus·es or oc·to·pi

Whatever your regional dialect is.

R..

 

[DennisS]

Battlelines drawn over bluefin tuna ban


Looks like the Japanese are just going to ignore this too if the outcome is not in their favour.

I wonder why they bother joining Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) if they aren't going to follow the general consensus??

It will provide job security for Watson.

 

[TechBlue]

wow .. it's always that the whales are going to cease to exist, and we have to do something now to stop Japan to save them for our children's sake .. I say sensaional BS
... Please show me figures that support that claim

... the whales hunted are not endangered, and the whalers have the required permits to take as many as they do take, and that number does not put the population at risk.

That that requires the kind of grandstanding, risky, life threatening, sometimes illegal actions by anti whalers ... is beyond me
They are a fanatical group that endangers people because they think they are right

There are many fanatical groups in the world that think they are right and it's OK for others to suffer the consequences because ... "the ends justify the means" ... or ... "they brought this on themselves" ...

I do not agree with ANY of them

Whaling, Factory Fishing boats, Finning sharks, butchering dolphins. This is going on everyday, anyhting that draws public attention is only a start. How can you make these statements?

Globally we are destroying our oceans and gumflapping is not going to stop it, sometimes it takes drastic measures to accomplish an objective.

 

[ScubaSteve]

.....sometimes it takes drastic measures to accomplish an objective.

And if we get a couple new and cool sites to dive because of their stupidity then we all win

 

[DennisS]

Whaling, Factory Fishing boats, Finning sharks, butchering dolphins. This is going on everyday, anyhting that draws public attention is only a start. How can you make these statements?

Globally we are destroying our oceans and gumflapping is not going to stop it, sometimes it takes drastic measures to accomplish an objective.

Watson has been doing this for years, he gets lots of personal publicity but his actions haven't changed anything.

 

[D_B]

wow .. it's always that the whales are going to cease to exist, and we have to do something now to stop Japan to save them for our children's sake .. I say sensational BS
... Please show me figures that support that claim

... the whales hunted are not endangered, and the whalers have the required permits to take as many as they do take, and that number does not put the population at risk.

That that requires the kind of grandstanding, risky, life threatening, sometimes illegal actions by anti whalers ... is beyond me
They are a fanatical group that endangers people because they think they are right

There are many fanatical groups in the world that think they are right and it's OK for others to suffer the consequences because ... "the ends justify the means" ... or ... "they brought this on themselves" ...

I do not agree with ANY of them

Whaling, Factory Fishing boats, Finning sharks, butchering dolphins. This is going on everyday, anything that draws public attention is only a start. How can you make these statements?

Globally we are destroying our oceans and gumflapping is not going to stop it, sometimes it takes drastic measures to accomplish an objective.

I can say them because they are factual , based on facts , not "I want to feel good" emotions.

.. "It takes drastic measures to accomplish an objective" ... is the very words used by most extremists .. using them does not justify anything they do

BTW ... I did NOT say anything about shark finning, or factory fishing boats.

 

[TechBlue]

Watson has been doing this for years, he gets lots of personal publicity but his actions haven't changed anything.

More than likely true but at least he is out there doing something and what is it going to take to get people to pull their head out of their ass and do something?