Ontario Shipwreck Hunting laws or hassles

[abnfrog]

Well that permit seems like a pain. Oh well rules are rules. If I break them in Canada, being an American citizen, will defiantly get burned. But thanks for all the info.
Jared

but its all legal till they catch ya .....

 

[roastbeef]

Its all bull****. you can't police anything if you don't have a force to police with. There are more shipwreck artifacts in the living rooms of divers across Ontario than on the bottoms of lakes. SOS come on realy what a joke.

 

[Groundhog246]

If you're searching for a dive site, I don't think chasing the SS James Carruthers is it anyway. The area she was last seen has depths from 300 to 500 feet. If she had made Main Channel North of Cove Island there would have almost certainly have been wreckage found. And it's one heck of a large search area, unless you have some other info to narrow the search.

 

[Jared0425]

I have evidence that shows it is possible she is in "shallower" water. I have a contact off of Kincardine in would like to investigate, but by the sounds of Canada's law.....

 

[ivakdiver]

The Carruthers was most likely lost on Lake Huron, while heading for Georgian Bay, according to historical records. You may be able to search the American side of that lake without needing a license, but if is odd Kincardine that would make it necessary for license.
Your original post seemed to have you wanting to search in the middle of Georgian Bay.

 

[Jared0425]

I wanted to search Georgian Bay for a few of the passenger steamers, then make my way down to Southampton-Kincardine and search a potential target found around 1984 by a few divers un 300ft. I have put much research into the Hydrus more than the Carruthers, but I have some wreckage reports, sightings, and last stop visits (that are conflicting) that may help.

 

[Groundhog246]

The Carruthers left Fort William (Thunder Bay) for Midland and was was last sighted turning to pas South of Great Duck and would most likely have planned to pass through main channel North of Cove Island. I can't imagine any way she'd be as far South as Southampton or Kincardine. I've sailed Port Elgin to Cove Island, it's quite a distance.

I don't recall the name, but there's at least one other ship unaccounted for in Lake Huron from the 1913 storm. Good hunting.

 

[Jared0425]

You just cleared something up! When in thought she refueled in at Thunder Bay, that means Thunder Bay Ontario not Alpena! I have a target off of Kincardine that needs to be investigated and a chart that shows and obstruction in 500ft of water south of Grand Duck Island. The other ship is the Hydrus and I'm trying to beat the government to get to her first.

 

[Groundhog246]

She loaded cargo in Thunder Bay, ON, came through the Sault locks, fueled at De Tour, MI and was heading for Midland, ON.

 

[Jared0425]

Well I dug into the subject a little bit more. I talked to a few student archeloegeists[SIC], and few others who know the OHA and said that in order to search for shipwrecks or objects of historical value, I must apply for a permit, register the device, and be a "professional" archeleogeist[sic].nthe permit process can take quite a few months and I must have a government official onboard when I find something. Now on the other hand if I lost my swim ladder or outboard motor, I may sidescan to my hearts content without government even caring. Now ain't this confusing?
Jared