A personal account of DCS...or is it just a trapped nerve?

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IWantToBeAFish

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Hi all,


This scenario has probably come up a few times before but I'd like to share my experience in the hope that it might be of interest to others. I am a technical instructor, doing technical dives on a frequent basis (generally always on courses up to advanced trimix). Apologies in advance for the long account, but I appreciate any that stay the course and read to the end :)


Last year in October I conducted a dive, 40m on air (twinset 11L) with a 5 minute deco obligation. I had a 36% stage that I used for deco from 21m. The profile included a bounce at the deeper portion 40 -> 30 -> 40 -> 30, never something that would normally occur on a typical dive but was required unexpectedly on this one. I had also done some routine exercise in the morning, 4 hours prior to the dive, light cardio and some bodyweight exercise that I was well conditioned for.


After the dive (simple in comparable terms) I had some pain and numbness in my upper left arm and shoulder. This occurred approximately 15-20 mins after the dive. This worsened in intensity over the following two hours and while it was not extreme, I put myself on O2 and went to see the local hyperbaric doctor which thankfully is only 15 minutes from our dive centre. The O2 made little difference but given the proximity of the chamber, I was not on it for very long. A slight tingling developed in my left hand.


After conducting a neuro (no problems) and physical assessment, he pronounced a minor type I DCS and recommended a US navy table 6 chamber treatment, which I accepted with some hesitation, an amount of denial present that I could actually be bent after such a dive when I had conducted so many dives prior much deeper with far greater deco obligations. The hyperbaric doctor and I concluded that the reason must have been the existence of both the saw-tooth bottom section of the dive and pre-dive exercise. There were two others on the dive with me, with the same profile, who had no issue.


After minutes on O2 at 2.8 bar in the chamber, all bad sensation in my arm had gone leaving me to conclude that it must have been DCS and I had a further 5 hours to think about just what implications this now had upon my diving and my career. I know plenty of people in all parts of the industry across the world that have been bent to some degree (thankfully no serious cases) at various times in the past. Still, I did struggle to accept that it had actually happened to me given the meticulous way with which I typically conduct all dives I perform.


Due to the speed with which the symptoms disappeared in the chamber and their severity prior to it, the hyperbaric doctor prescribed no diving for 4 weeks with a followup then to ascertain whether diving could commence. With my frustration, I followed this advice exactly and 4 weeks later was absolutely fine and signed off for diving. Shallow, no-deco dives to begin with of course but happily upon beginning technical dives once more after a safe period, I had no repeat hits. A big relief for sure.


Approximately a month ago, I was again on a 40m dive with minimal deco obligation (final dive of Tec40 course), in twinset air + 50% and the exact same sensation returned again. I was horrified. The dive profile was perfect, very conservative, great conditions, I was well hydrated and I had done no exercise. Since the first incident however, I had read plenty of material and before sending myself off to the chamber this time I decided to take some muscle relaxants and head home to rest and continue hydrating. There was certainly an improvement, pain disappeared, still a bit numb but nothing that concerned me. I went to sleep.


In the morning I woke feeling fine but within minutes of getting out of bed, the pain and numbness intensified again. Feeling experimental, with nothing to do, I went to the dive shop, put myself on O2 and waited for 45 minutes. There was a drastic improvement again, I took anti-inflammatories and went home to rest for the day. The next day I was also dry and felt fine. Must be a muscular issue. The following day I was in the water at 5m teaching a sidemount course and after the dive, back came the same sensation.


Logic tells you that there is no way you can get hit at 5m...unless of course you have just been hit a few days prior and the tissue is severely damaged. The mind plays many tricks upon you in such a situation and I decided to be sensible and phone DAN. The DAN doctor, rather hurriedly informed me that if medication made the pain subside it wasn't DCS. I went to sleep. The next day it was worse, very numb, tingles in my hand, slight throbbing sensation. So back to the local doctor I returned, another neuro and physical and he confirmed no DCS, just a muscular issue, rest and continue anti-inflammatories, muscle relaxants and allow recovery.


I stayed dry for two weeks, in some sense actually fearing returning to the water in case of another episode. Finally I forced myself to ignore my internal mind games, enter the water and confront it. All was absolutely fine. Back to my normal diving schedule. Fast forward to two days ago and I am doing a 55m training dive, twinset, trimix, two decos, 80 minute dive time with a lot of swimming. Once again the same situation happens, 10-15 minutes after the dive, intensifying over time. This time I wasted no time in taking some fairly strong muscle relaxants and anti-inflammatories with a large amount of water while doing a classroom theory session. By the evening my arm was 100% ok. The following day we did 65m to finish a Tec65 course which went perfectly, and all was ok after the dive.






Finally I arrive at my learnings from the last few months. While I will never know for certain, I strongly believe that I was never bent in the first place. I think that something about being in a twinset combined with my trim posture during deco pinches a nerve and creates symptoms that can be confused with a type I hit. Breathing 100% O2 probably does help the issue as I am in a relaxed posture while on it. I have spoken to some during this time that have, based on their own experience, said that a DCS hit really, REALLY hurts and that the description of my symptoms does not sound extreme enough.


Still, it is a tough sitution to be in. I consider myself to have a very high knowledge of dive physiology and decompression theory and practice, though when faced with potential symptoms, erring on the side of caution that first time was certainly a sensible idea. From the doctor's perspective as well, given that I was full DAN insured, he was maybe erring on the side of caution by putting me in the chamber also. In summary, there are a few things that I take from my experiences:


- A trapped nerve can produce symptoms very similar to that of type I DCS
- Whether at fault or not, a saw-toothed profile between 40m and 30m is still to be avoided
- Keep the bodyweight exercises away from deep dives regardless
- If the sensation of a possible hit is minor, perhaps muscle relaxants / anti-inflammatories should be tried first and a self-assessment made (MY OWN GUIDANCE, NOT ADVICE I AM PRESCRIBING TO ALL, I AM NOT A QUALIFIED DOCTOR)
- If medications cause symptoms to subside, it probably isn't DCS (as confirmed by DAN doctor over the phone, but still DO NOT TAKE AS GUARANTEED, SEEK YOUR OWN MEDICAL ADVICE).


I hope my account provides some amount learning. Ultimately of course, I would advise any diver to have a comprehensive insurance cover so that if you ever question yourself or someone else having DCS, you immediately take appropriate action (lay down, breath 100% O2) and get yourself to emergency medical/hyperbaric care. Being in the chamber is not a fantastic experience, and there are certainly considerations that should be made about going there, but let the hyperbaric professionals make that assessment and feel safe in the knowledge that if it does have to happen, your insurance is there to cover the financial aspect. I know that in my case, my DAN coverage was invaluable. I had a single accident report to fill in, and then the rest was handled entirely between DAN and the hyperbaric chamber.


Thank you for listening ;-)
 
I would suspect possibly a neck problem pinched nerve causing the pain in your arm. I had it happen to me. When you sleep do you ever have numbness in your arm or hand that goes away if you move or roll over? I was treated for bentz and had 3 vertibras fused after an MRI showed spurs and artiritis. The numbness stopped for a while and now is returning 15 years after the fusing. I am 70 years old still dive but 100' limit and 32 nitrox on air tables. Over 9000 loged dives bent minor pain 3 times when i thought i was bullet proof. Your case 50/50 percent you were bent in my mind a guess at best. I would get an MRI of neck. Good luck...
 
Not medical, but having lots of pinched nerves . . .

(1) What if the pinched nerve (damage) makes it an easier place within which to form bubbles?

(2) From experience with pinching nerves -- get exercises from physical therapy to strengthen the neck and shoulders. That will keep your spine in alignment if you do have a nerve-pinch problem.
 
Hi Fish,

There are a couple of things from your story that stand out.

I'm not sure if you mis-heard the DAN representative but medications will definitely relieve DCS pain.

Numbness is a type II symptom, not a type I symptom.

While hyperbaric oxygen has some anti-inflammatory effects, your description of the dramatic resolution of your symptoms at pressure on your chamber treatment makes me think that it is highly probable that you did indeed have decompression sickness. Also, the speed at which you say you got relief on surface O2 after the second incident makes me believe that you were probably bent that time as well.

You placed a lot of emphasis on your planning and execution of your dives, which I'm sure was quite meticulous, but no deco schedule is perfect. Even a well-planned and executed decompression dive carries some probability of DCS, and that probability increases with depth and bottom time.

It's difficult to say what is causing the repeat hits in the same place, but it seems likely that there is some sort of inflammatory process already in place there. Perhaps you also have some soft tissue problems in the same area, but without an exam and radiological studies that would be impossible to tell.

Finally, I know that you added a lot of caveats, but I have to disagree with your recommendation that divers try medication first if they think they have a minor DCS hit. Medications can mask symptoms and make assessment difficult, and can prolong the denial phase that many divers experience with DCS.

Best regards,
DDM
 
Since the OP is wanting to deny DCS, even though the chamber ride resolution of symptoms seems a pretty powerful indicator of the issue...I can think of two other things to do....

1.) gear up in the doubles rig, simulate all the standing up, walking around, and any other muscular contraction that could cause a spasm...then maybe swim around at 10 feet for 30 minutes....and get back on the boat......if you have pain and numbness, then it sounds VERY nerve impingement related.....However.....if you do have a nerve cause a muscle to spasm 30 minutes into your dive, then there is a real likelihood that your off-gassing will be impaired by the constricted bloodflow in that muscle and around it....Which is another way that DCS could get introduced.

2.) Get checked for a PFO.....no one SHOULD have been bent from what you did. I know plenty of spearfisherman that have done hundreds of 140 foot dives in the duration you are talking, and just done ascents at 30 ft per minute and 1 to 3 minute stops...and they were never bent....
Point is....tables are statistical data...you are an individual...as are the spearfisherman....you are NOT like them with your results, and in your case, as an individual, I think you should find out why you are not.....The PFO would be one possible reason...very poor VO2 max from being sedentary for a long time, would be another indication of poor perfusion and bad offgassing....
 
+1 on the suggestion to walk around in the gear and see what happens.

PFO is not associated with isolated symptoms like the OP's. If he had had multiple incidents of spinal or inner ear DCS it might be reasonable to have him tested, but in this case if he was found to have one it would probably be a red herring.

Best regards,
DDM
 
Thank you to all for your replies! Originally I fully accepted my DCS hit entirely due to the relief of symptoms in the chamber. The sensation in my arm was unlike anything I had felt before and, being physically very fit all my life I have had my share of muscular injuries. That it was so unusual also led me to believe it was DCS rather than "just another muscle problem".

We do a lot of shore diving here and the walk from dive centre into the water, while only 100m, often causes tingling in my left arm in a twinset prior to actually getting in the water. This is rapidly relieved however as soon as I am in the shallows running through pre-dive checks once my wing takes off the weight of the equipment.

With regard the advice from the DAN doctor, there is no doubt about the information he gave me. Specifically that if I found a position to lie in that caused sensation relief, or it happened in response to anti-inflammatories then it definitely was not DCS. I even tried to debate this with him, especially given my previous diagnosis and chamber ride (that of course DAN were aware of) but he was adamant. However, I will also state that he seemed hurried and fairly disinterested on the phone to me. Make of that what you will..

I understand completely about individual susceptibility but if that was the case and I had some physiological predisposition then I am sure I would see a far greater number of incidents in myself, given just how often I dive technically. My plans are not particularly aggressive, and have various conservatism mechanisms built in but even still I would have thought the body would not cope with them if it struggled in simpler scenarios.

After the second incident, where I self-administered O2 at the dive centre, I was still prepared to believe that it could be DCS. It was only this recent incident that entirely resolved itself within hours and has been fine since, even through multiple days of deep dives, that has really raised an eyebrow. Could a DCS hit resolve so quickly and (seemingly) completely?

Thanks very much for your help DDM and Dan!
 
A 100 meter walk in a heavy twinset, could cause a person that has not adapted their muscles and posture to this kind of weight, to get muscle spasms.... I think you need a Sherpa !
Next best thing would be one of those carts with big ATV tires that rolls over sand and anything....and transport all the heavy gear in the cart.

I actually think there are a great many divers that will never find it healthy to lift this much weight on their backs....
 
Compression of nerves that supply the arm can occur between the vertebrae in the neck for sure, and also between (a) the scalene muscles in the neck, (b) underneath the clavicle and © underneath pectoralis minor muscle. The clavicle and pec minor are certainly compressed by the shoulder straps of double tanks.

One orthopedic test for compression at (b) and (c ) is called Roos test. bring your arms out to your sides, 90 degrees at the shoulders. Then flex your elbows to 90 degrees, somewhat of a "hands up" position. Repeatedly spread your fingers, then make fists, then spread your fingers over a 30 second time frame. If the numbness and tingling recur, it is suspected that the nerve compression is also at (b) and (c ). Physiotherapy could help that….as could not carrying the doubles 100m.
 
I have spoken to some during this time that have, based on their own experience, said that a DCS hit really, REALLY hurts and that the description of my symptoms does not sound extreme enough.

Bummer, ‘Fish. I do hope you get this sorted out.

In the meantime, receiving advice from those who are not properly trained, educated & experienced is not likely to clarify matters or speed resolution of the malady, and the above quoted “information” falls squarely within that category.

So, what follows is a rough short course on DCS-related pain

Pain occurs in ~70-85% of divers diagnosed with Type I DCS (sometimes termed “joint-only” DCS, which really isn’t entirely acurate). It occurs most frequently in a joint (primarily an elbow, shoulder, hip or knee) or tendon area, although it can appear in other tissue. Upper limbs (with the shoulder being the most commonly affected joint) are involved ~3 times more often than lower limbs (with the knee being the most commonly affected joint). The pain itself can be difficult to characterize & localize, and can range from very mild discomfort that resolves rapidly (sometimes termed the “niggles’&#8221:wink: to intense toothache-type pain. Most typically, it is described as a dull, deep & throbbing sensation that can be mild at onset and gradually become worse.

Such pain is much less common in the more worrisome Type II DCS. This sort of DCS is also termed neurological DCS and is the classification in which symptoms such as pain & numbness of the upper arm & shoulder, and tingling in the hand, would be placed. Significant pain occurs in only ~30% these cases. And as with Type I DCS, the particulars of the pain can vary widely.

Yours is an interesting situation. Please do keep the forum posted on any new findings.

Cheers,

DocVikingo

---------- Post added February 25th, 2014 at 04:59 AM ----------

Since the OP is wanting to deny DCS, even though the chamber ride resolution of symptoms seems a pretty powerful indicator of the issue....

Hey, Dan, how goes it?

Not to nit-pick, but the resolution of symptoms like pain & numbness of the upper arm & shoulder that result from etiologies other than scuba-related free-gas phase issues (e.g., strains, sprains, nerve impingement) not uncommonly do show improvement when subjected to hyperbaric 02 therapy.

Cheers,

DocV
 
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