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TRAGEDY DESTINED TO OCCUR:

Maria, with respect:

I think Otmar was in fact QUITE TASTEFUL in not bad-mouthing the competition. If you know much about boats and operations....as i'm sure Otmar does...I can tell you that i do as i've been involved in this business for over 20 years...and i have also been on the Maria Patricia as a client....I was ASTOUNDED at the lack of skills and basic safety operations and lack of adequately trained n and tenders for a boat that ran off-shore operations. The crew, captain and owner on the other hand were all very gracious and very nice people, but that does not make up for having trained personnel and adequate safety gear and a daily dive operational safety plan each day. Having spent much of my adult life on boats, running boats and being involved in search and rescue operations....i would have to rate the Maria Patricia at the bottom of the list for several reasons that i won't go into at this moment. MOST IMPORTANT is that people go to sea trusting their lives to the operators of such boats...most if not nearly all of these guests/clients have no clue about the seaworthiness of the boat they are on or the ability of the crew to handle a safety situation---they just assume the boat and crew are all certified and trained....How little the public knows unfortunately. I have seen this so many times in my career diving around the world. This incident however bothers me tremendously because i was on this boat and i had told my friend/assistant that was on the boat with me that this boat would one day have a very bad accident.....due to the fact they have few people on board that i would even consider boat people; lack of adequate dive tenders and motors; dive tenders going out to the other side of the island without a hand held radio...my list goes on and on and on....

I am so saddened because this tragedy should have been avoidable....IN fact was likely very avoidable...with the proper training and personnel and proper equipment --- from radios to well maintained dive skiffs.

for now, i'll stop here...but follow up with more later.

How amazing it is that we are hearing there are survivors...WoW! only those of us lost at sea know what it feels like to taste the sweet goodness of dirt under our feet after floating for hours at sea wondering if we'll ever make it back to see our loved ones....

We are at the mercy of Mother Nature. Being lost at sea is bound to happen, regardless. So, could you please tell us specifically what Yemaya II to be better currently, than Maria Patricia in minimizing such accident to occur? What safety features are the boat equipped? Are each divers provided with Nautilus Lifeline like those boats in Galápagos?
 
Riko Lopez, thanks so much for sharing Peter's side of this tragic situation. Peter, I'm so glad for you that you're with us to tell it. After what you accomplished and survived,there's no doubt in my mind that you would, indeed, have had the fortitude to survive another night and as many more as it may have taken. Fortunately, you didn't have to do that, none of which makes light of your absolutely amazing swim and self-rescue! If it weren't for you, it's likely that none of the others would have been found. You're a hero to me! I welcome you to the rest of your life and I'm sure you'll find your home when you're ready.
 
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We are at the mercy of Mother Nature. Being lost at sea is bound to happen, regardless. So, could you please tell us specifically what Yemaya II to be better currently, than Maria Patricia in minimizing such accident to occur? What safety features are the boat equipped? Are each divers provided with Nautilus Lifeline like those boats in Galápagos?

Dan....yes, we may be at the mercy of mother nature...in fact i'm at the mercy of mother nature as i write this hoping a lightening bolt will not fall from the sky as i type now. That is not the point. The point is that we put our lives in the hands of dive operators when we pay for a trip like this...This means, we expect that the boat and all personnel are sufficiently trained in all safety proceeders and put in place the SIMPLEST of these---such as a dive briefing not only for the divers, but for the boat itself that knows how to respond if the skiff does not check in at certain intervals...also having radios on all the skiffs--i had to argue to get a radio on one of the skiffs on my trip. Even then i called the boat and could not raise them ever...I had to ask them to monitor the radio...I would expect that all of this is STANDARD...but having lived outside of the USA for most of my life...i realize it is NOT standard. I have no idea how the other boat operates...i only have my experience on the Maria Patricia and i can say without hesitation that i would never get on that boat again. Our boatmen had no idea how to even handle a boat. Our motor would die on us as we motored away from the mothership....the list goes on from there.....to the boat itself, but i would keep this discussion to what i consider key to maintaining a safe dive operation on any boat....bottom line is a trained crew and safety procedures that are are called into action when something occurs...Hell, a dive watch is standard on any boat i've bee on....constant contact with dive skiffs etc....safety of your passengers and how to attend to an incident are just things you hire the proper crew for....

Don't take any of this personal. We will all see what comes of this as survivors speak up. I for one know from my experience that this was such a real possibility to occur. I've seen few operations with such untrained personnel as this one...Unfortunate since everyone i met onboard so badly wanted to do the right thing. They just seemed not to have anyone at the top training them and giving them the proper tools to do it....

PS....yes a Nautilus Lifeline would have been great....but ask anyone who owns one...if you dont know how to use it (spend a few hours with one) and if the boat does not monitor the radio--it's not very handy. They are not easy to figure out if you are just given one on a dive weekend. I have had mine for years and have to always check the channel and make sure dive boat and skiff are on the same frequency and TEST THEM....make a dive, surface and call them to see if they respond---we all have to test our gear and safety procedures---ask any pilot. If you don't plan for disaster, you will not react very well.
 
On surfacing I asked Carlos if he was alright and why we aborted the dive. He answered that there was too much current. I asked him about the 5 min safety stop and he shrugged. At this point it seemed we were moving slowly SE of the dive site, but only 300 m from the stern of the main boat. No need for concern yet. Carlos and two of the guests put up their safety sausages (visual aids) to alert the boat where we were and we awaited to get picked u by one of the zodiacs. However, we were in a different place to where anyone expected to see us come up and about a half hour early. There was no one on dive watch on this boat. Several silky sharks (Carcharhinus falciformis) were curious about our presence, so started circling the group. One of the guest was a little nervous about their boldness, so another guest and I (anxious for a chance to get a bit more in for our last dive) went down about 10 m to play with the sharks and show they weren't being threatening. We stayed around the feet of the other three while they were signalling the boat. After about 15 - 20 mins I thought it was a little odd that no one had come to pick us up yet so I surfaced. On surfacing first I saw that the other three were still contentedly holding onto their sausages, but on turning around I saw that we were at least 3 - 4 km from Malpelo, and the dive boat was just a point on the horizon. I urged the others to try and swim with me back in the direction of the island and boat, because if we could not see them they could definitely not see us. Carlos disagreed with me and asked that we conserve energy and wait to be picked up. Immediately myself and another guest, Jorge, left the group and started swimming. It was about 1630. I yelled back that Id let the boat know where everyone was (moving steadily SE of Malpelo..). The current was a bit stronger than I had thought and Jorge had some trouble making progress against it. We quickly split up and he later rejoined with Hernan, one of the guests. I just swam. I tacked 45 degrees into the current to try and make better progress. Just before dark I used to rest of the air in my tank to try and swim harder and get close enough the rock that I could hear the waves so I wouldn't rely on light to get back. With no air left I took a moment to get rid of the tank and weights. I hadn't stopped to do it before as every moment without swimming was a further distance from the boat. At 1930 I could see I was ~500 m from the boat and I was sure that I was going to make it and I could drink a beer and tell them where the other four were. I couldn't understand why no one had looked for us yet down current. But all of a sudden the boat started moving. In the opposite direction. Into the current. and then they turned their lights off and I couldn't see them any more. I got back to malpelo at 2000 and waited approximately where the boat had been moored thinking that surely they would come back. Or at least do a lap of the island. No sight of anything for over an hour. I was getting tired as I had to swim constantly against the current to not get pulled away from the island, and there was a 3-4 m swell. I remembered that on the other side of the island there was a ladder. This was the only way up onto the rock, and surely there would be a radio and maybe even water at the top. So i swam there. I got to the ladder about 2200. But it was raised. I swore so much. I couldn't understand why the boat had left and gone into the current, and hadn't left anyone else at the island and didn't think to make sure the ladder was down. All I had to do was get up and then Id be safe and Id be able to get in contact with someone to tell the boat to turn around the other four were the other way, and then water, and beer, they were still on the boat. I was so thirsty. This was the first moment that I thought maybe I wouldn't survive this. I didn't have energy to fight against the current all night and all sides of malpelo were vertical rock faces covered in barnacles and being smashed against by 3 m waves. I tried anyways. I spent several hours trying to climb the rocks to get up to the ladder. But it was a dark night and I couldn't see anything and I was getting grated across the rocks each time i tried. My wetsuit was completely torn and cold water was coming in. My hands and legs were bloody and I was getting worried about all those previously adorable sharks that had escorted me for my swim back to the rock. I gave up climbing for a while to swim around the island looking for a better place to climb up, or hold onto or any signs of a boat. About 0200 in the morning I tried again to climb up to the ladder. This time exhausted and desperate. Finally a huge set of waves took me and smashed me into the side of a tall rock face about 50 m from the ladder. I put my hand out to protect my face and my hand entered into a small ledge. The wave passed and I was left hanging onto the side of the cliff. Involuntarily in a moment of adrenalin I pulled myself up and I was dry and sitting on a ledge on the side of the rock. I spent the night there fantasising about waterfalls and beer. At 7 am i was getting poked by a crab. I sat up and was covered by about a dozen crabs, two lizards and lots of bird ****. I grabbed the biggest crab and was excited to rip off his claws and drink the liquid inside. And then i happily imagined myself drinking my morning pee out of my dive mask. Only then did I notice that there was a boat moored just in front of me. Less than 100 m away. So i put down the crab and dive mask. I jumped up and down and blew my whistle at the boat, but they seemed confused. I put on my gear and jumped back in the water and started swimming to the boat. At this point my desperation must have been evident so they came and picked me up. It was another dive boat from Panama. I was so happy to see them. They gave me water, a hot shower and espresso. It was amazing. Oddly, they had no idea there were divers missing in the area. I told them about the other four and they immediately advised the authorities. They assisted the Colombian armada for the next four days trying to find the missing four divers. I felt bad that the other tourists onboard wouldn't get the dive trip they signed up for in Malpelo, but they were amazing and eager to help everyone find the others. Two days later they found two of the guests, Jorge and Hernan. I had rejoined my dive boat at that point and was told that they were initially waiting for night time to look for our lights. But no one thought to bring a light on a dive that started at 1530 in the afternoon. Also, the next day they found Carlos' GPS left on his bed. Apparently he always takes one. I was brought back to land via one of the navy ships on Tuesday the 6th of Sep. Laura an amazing friend of mine from Medellin was there waiting for me and we got a lift to Cali where Lis and Kristen were just arriving from Boston to see me. We had an amazing week. Sadly, last weekend they found the body of the other guest. Carlos has still not been found. I am so grateful to still be here, but it is a very bittersweet feeling at best. I cant imagine what it would have been like to spend all that time floating around in the ocean. My night was already too much and I would not have had the mental tenacity to survive even a second one. I feel so sorry for the families of Vanesa and Carlos. They were both such good people. It all just really sucks so much. To make all matters just a little bit worse, the dive boat I was on tried to tell their families that their deaths were my fault after they found the other body. I was the only foreigner onboard and they said things like I forced them to dive or that I insisted on changing the dive site. Luckily because three of us survived, the truth is winning. The dive operation will eventually have to deal with the potential negligence that led to this incident and the delay in rescue effort. Now all this doesn't even feel real anymore. The memories just sit somewhere in the back of my mind, like an old nightmare. Mostly, I just feel numb. Lis and Kristen left Colombia yesterday. I miss them so much. I have missed my flight twice now to Brasil. I just bought another one for tomorrow afternoon. I will try not to miss it. I have done some interviews with Colombian media. They will hopefully be released after I leave. Ill do my best to stay in better touch with everybody once i have found a place and time to settle a bit. I want to go home, but I need to find out where that is. Thank you everyone who has taken the time to write me your kind words. Im really grateful to know people like you. There are a lot of assholes in the world. Its amazing when you can surround yourself with the people who aren't.
Wow, what an ordeal. Glad you lived and thankful you're sharing your story. Rarely do we get first hand accounts like this. Good luck.
 
Dan....yes, we may be at the mercy of mother nature...in fact i'm at the mercy of mother nature as i write this hoping a lightening bolt will not fall from the sky as i type now. That is not the point. The point is that we put our lives in the hands of dive operators when we pay for a trip like this...This means, we expect that the boat and all personnel are sufficiently trained in all safety proceeders and put in place the SIMPLEST of these---such as a dive briefing not only for the divers, but for the boat itself that knows how to respond if the skiff does not check in at certain intervals...also having radios on all the skiffs--i had to argue to get a radio on one of the skiffs on my trip. Even then i called the boat and could not raise them ever...I had to ask them to monitor the radio...I would expect that all of this is STANDARD...but having lived outside of the USA for most of my life...i realize it is NOT standard. I have no idea how the other boat operates...i only have my experience on the Maria Patricia and i can say without hesitation that i would never get on that boat again. Our boatmen had no idea how to even handle a boat. Our motor would die on us as we motored away from the mothership....the list goes on from there.....to the boat itself, but i would keep this discussion to what i consider key to maintaining a safe dive operation on any boat....bottom line is a trained crew and safety procedures that are are called into action when something occurs...Hell, a dive watch is standard on any boat i've bee on....constant contact with dive skiffs etc....safety of your passengers and how to attend to an incident are just things you hire the proper crew for....

Don't take any of this personal. We will all see what comes of this as survivors speak up. I for one know from my experience that this was such a real possibility to occur. I've seen few operations with such untrained personnel as this one...Unfortunate since everyone i met onboard so badly wanted to do the right thing. They just seemed not to have anyone at the top training them and giving them the proper tools to do it....

PS....yes a Nautilus Lifeline would have been great....but ask anyone who owns one...if you dont know how to use it (spend a few hours with one) and if the boat does not monitor the radio--it's not very handy. They are not easy to figure out if you are just given one on a dive weekend. I have had mine for years and have to always check the channel and make sure dive boat and skiff are on the same frequency and TEST THEM....make a dive, surface and call them to see if they respond---we all have to test our gear and safety procedures---ask any pilot. If you don't plan for disaster, you will not react very well.

None taken personally, in fact the opposite, kudos to you for your straight forward response. This is a good start for improving dive operations there to prevent recurrence.

My learning point from you & this accident is to talk to the captain of my next liveaboard trips about their plan to find diver lost at sea & to test my Nautilus Lifeline with the boat radio.

I'll be leading a group of 13 divers going to Banda Sea & Raja Ampat, Indonesia, next year. We are chartering the whole boat for this trip. Banda is in the middle of nowhere. So, I want to be sure all safety plans are covered.
 
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None taken personally, in fact the opposite, kudos to you for your straight forward response. This is a good start for improving dive operations there to prevent recurrence.

My learning point from you & this accident is to talk to the captain of my next liveaboard trips about their plan to find diver lost at sea & to test my Nautilus Lifeline with the boat radio.

I'll be leading a group of 13 divers going to Banda Sea & Raja Ampat, Indonesia, next year. We are chartering the whole boat for this trip. Banda is in the middle of nowhere. So, I want to be sure all safety plans are covered.

Tragic accidents always provide a "pause" or reset in my approach to safe diving practices. Even for an experienced diver in remote areas, it's important to communicate with the crew and DMs about safe practices, from man overboard, fire on ship, to lost or missing divers. At least in SE Asia, best practices will include good communication on the ship with crew and DMs, radio's on dingy's, O2 (depending on size of the dingy and location of main boat), and following divers via bubbles and currents. Although safety starts with the Captain, the crew, the DMs, and divers have responsibly for safe diving.
 
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This forum is about learning from incidents. So what can we learn from this? As a warm water vacation diver, I believe this type of dive is way beyond anything that I would consider (read: be capable of). But maybe I could be tricked by sly marketing...

I have never been on a day boat that required any type of special (safety) gear. I have been on liveaboards that required a safety sausage or a signal flag. Some of these LOBs operated very far from any type of emergency services, but they operated in very benign high visibility almost zero current conditions. Any kind of current or really bad viz meant the the boat went to a different dive site.

I am interested in feedback on what would be considered the minimal set of safety gear each diver should be packing for "more adventurous" dives. I am also interested in feedback on what boat procedures would be necessary for this type of dive.

The most extreme rescue operation I have witnessed is a LOB firing up the "dinghy of shame" to go retrieve a few divers that were working on their rescue class. I hope they failed the class...
 
On surfacing I asked Carlos if he was alright and why we aborted the dive. He answered that there was too much current. I asked him about the 5 min safety stop and he shrugged. At this point it seemed we were moving slowly SE of the dive site, but only 300 m from the stern of the main boat. No need for concern yet. Carlos and two of the guests put up their safety sausages (visual aids) to alert the boat where we were and we awaited to get picked u by one of the zodiacs. However, we were in a different place to where anyone expected to see us come up and about a half hour early. There was no one on dive watch on this boat. Several silky sharks (Carcharhinus falciformis) were curious about our presence, so started circling the group. One of the guest was a little nervous about their boldness, so another guest and I (anxious for a chance to get a bit more in for our last dive) went down about 10 m to play with the sharks and show they weren't being threatening. We stayed around the feet of the other three while they were signalling the boat. After about 15 - 20 mins I thought it was a little odd that no one had come to pick us up yet so I surfaced. On surfacing first I saw that the other three were still contentedly holding onto their sausages, but on turning around I saw that we were at least 3 - 4 km from Malpelo, and the dive boat was just a point on the horizon. I urged the others to try and swim with me back in the direction of the island and boat, because if we could not see them they could definitely not see us. Carlos disagreed with me and asked that we conserve energy and wait to be picked up. Immediately myself and another guest, Jorge, left the group and started swimming. It was about 1630. I yelled back that Id let the boat know where everyone was (moving steadily SE of Malpelo..). The current was a bit stronger than I had thought and Jorge had some trouble making progress against it. We quickly split up and he later rejoined with Hernan, one of the guests. I just swam. I tacked 45 degrees into the current to try and make better progress. Just before dark I used to rest of the air in my tank to try and swim harder and get close enough the rock that I could hear the waves so I wouldn't rely on light to get back. With no air left I took a moment to get rid of the tank and weights. I hadn't stopped to do it before as every moment without swimming was a further distance from the boat. At 1930 I could see I was ~500 m from the boat and I was sure that I was going to make it and I could drink a beer and tell them where the other four were. I couldn't understand why no one had looked for us yet down current. But all of a sudden the boat started moving. In the opposite direction. Into the current. and then they turned their lights off and I couldn't see them any more. I got back to malpelo at 2000 and waited approximately where the boat had been moored thinking that surely they would come back. Or at least do a lap of the island. No sight of anything for over an hour. I was getting tired as I had to swim constantly against the current to not get pulled away from the island, and there was a 3-4 m swell. I remembered that on the other side of the island there was a ladder. This was the only way up onto the rock, and surely there would be a radio and maybe even water at the top. So i swam there. I got to the ladder about 2200. But it was raised. I swore so much. I couldn't understand why the boat had left and gone into the current, and hadn't left anyone else at the island and didn't think to make sure the ladder was down. All I had to do was get up and then Id be safe and Id be able to get in contact with someone to tell the boat to turn around the other four were the other way, and then water, and beer, they were still on the boat. I was so thirsty. This was the first moment that I thought maybe I wouldn't survive this. I didn't have energy to fight against the current all night and all sides of malpelo were vertical rock faces covered in barnacles and being smashed against by 3 m waves. I tried anyways. I spent several hours trying to climb the rocks to get up to the ladder. But it was a dark night and I couldn't see anything and I was getting grated across the rocks each time i tried. My wetsuit was completely torn and cold water was coming in. My hands and legs were bloody and I was getting worried about all those previously adorable sharks that had escorted me for my swim back to the rock. I gave up climbing for a while to swim around the island looking for a better place to climb up, or hold onto or any signs of a boat. About 0200 in the morning I tried again to climb up to the ladder. This time exhausted and desperate. Finally a huge set of waves took me and smashed me into the side of a tall rock face about 50 m from the ladder. I put my hand out to protect my face and my hand entered into a small ledge. The wave passed and I was left hanging onto the side of the cliff. Involuntarily in a moment of adrenalin I pulled myself up and I was dry and sitting on a ledge on the side of the rock. I spent the night there fantasising about waterfalls and beer. At 7 am i was getting poked by a crab. I sat up and was covered by about a dozen crabs, two lizards and lots of bird ****. I grabbed the biggest crab and was excited to rip off his claws and drink the liquid inside. And then i happily imagined myself drinking my morning pee out of my dive mask. Only then did I notice that there was a boat moored just in front of me. Less than 100 m away. So i put down the crab and dive mask. I jumped up and down and blew my whistle at the boat, but they seemed confused. I put on my gear and jumped back in the water and started swimming to the boat. At this point my desperation must have been evident so they came and picked me up. It was another dive boat from Panama. I was so happy to see them. They gave me water, a hot shower and espresso. It was amazing. Oddly, they had no idea there were divers missing in the area. I told them about the other four and they immediately advised the authorities. They assisted the Colombian armada for the next four days trying to find the missing four divers. I felt bad that the other tourists onboard wouldn't get the dive trip they signed up for in Malpelo, but they were amazing and eager to help everyone find the others. Two days later they found two of the guests, Jorge and Hernan. I had rejoined my dive boat at that point and was told that they were initially waiting for night time to look for our lights. But no one thought to bring a light on a dive that started at 1530 in the afternoon. Also, the next day they found Carlos' GPS left on his bed. Apparently he always takes one. I was brought back to land via one of the navy ships on Tuesday the 6th of Sep. Laura an amazing friend of mine from Medellin was there waiting for me and we got a lift to Cali where Lis and Kristen were just arriving from Boston to see me. We had an amazing week. Sadly, last weekend they found the body of the other guest. Carlos has still not been found. I am so grateful to still be here, but it is a very bittersweet feeling at best. I cant imagine what it would have been like to spend all that time floating around in the ocean. My night was already too much and I would not have had the mental tenacity to survive even a second one. I feel so sorry for the families of Vanesa and Carlos. They were both such good people. It all just really sucks so much. To make all matters just a little bit worse, the dive boat I was on tried to tell their families that their deaths were my fault after they found the other body. I was the only foreigner onboard and they said things like I forced them to dive or that I insisted on changing the dive site. Luckily because three of us survived, the truth is winning. The dive operation will eventually have to deal with the potential negligence that led to this incident and the delay in rescue effort. Now all this doesn't even feel real anymore. The memories just sit somewhere in the back of my mind, like an old nightmare. Mostly, I just feel numb. Lis and Kristen left Colombia yesterday. I miss them so much. I have missed my flight twice now to Brasil. I just bought another one for tomorrow afternoon. I will try not to miss it. I have done some interviews with Colombian media. They will hopefully be released after I leave. Ill do my best to stay in better touch with everybody once i have found a place and time to settle a bit. I want to go home, but I need to find out where that is. Thank you everyone who has taken the time to write me your kind words. Im really grateful to know people like you. There are a lot of assholes in the world. Its amazing when you can surround yourself with the people who aren't.

The skiffs / zodiacs, in liveaboards I've been in, usually follow the diver bubbles in drift diving, instead of leaving the divers underwater & going back to the mothership in rough ocean. It'll be difficult to see a 2m SMB in a 3m wave. This is a bad situation waiting to happen.

Also, after an hour of diving (~ 4:40pm), which was still plenty of light, not able to locate the divers at the surface, at where they were supposed to be, the search & rescue should start then, before dark set in. I assume the sun sets around 6pm there, so the crew have about a bit over an hour to search the divers in the direction of the current. Why the mother ship ended up sailing against the current is beyond my comprehension.
 
This forum is about learning from incidents. So what can we learn from this? As a warm water vacation diver, I believe this type of dive is way beyond anything that I would consider (read: be capable of). But maybe I could be tricked by sly marketing...

I have never been on a day boat that required any type of special (safety) gear. I have been on liveaboards that required a safety sausage or a signal flag. Some of these LOBs operated very far from any type of emergency services, but they operated in very benign high visibility almost zero current conditions. Any kind of current or really bad viz meant the the boat went to a different dive site.

I am interested in feedback on what would be considered the minimal set of safety gear each diver should be packing for "more adventurous" dives. I am also interested in feedback on what boat procedures would be necessary for this type of dive.

The most extreme rescue operation I have witnessed is a LOB firing up the "dinghy of shame" to go retrieve a few divers that were working on their rescue class. I hope they failed the class...

For what it's worth, all of the private boats I dive on, including my own, require an SMB and audible signaling device.

I personally dive with an SMB, whistle, DiveAlert and PLB. It's not just being separated from the boat, there's a number of other concerns. Many of us have dove or seen wrecks... Most of these boats didn't end up on the bottom of the ocean on purpose.
 
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