Garmin Descent MK2

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Cool! I thought the mk1 has something similar, but maybe it doesn't. And I guess it works everywhere outside the water, without the need of any extra device, right? (like: lost in the mountain or in the sea)

Except that it merely allows you to pair it with a separate inReach transmitter. So in case e.g. current sweeps you away while diving, you still need to have been diving with this separate walkie-talkie-like device. And these are actually not made for diving, e.g. only checked for the usual 30min@1m or so as far as Garmin's website.
 
How do you get your Teric dive data into Garmin? You can't. But I can put my Garmin dive data into Subsurface
I guess I don't understand your point. You can put the Teric data into Subsurface too.
 
Except that it merely allows you to pair it with a separate inReach transmitter. So in case e.g. current sweeps you away while diving, you still need to have been diving with this separate walkie-talkie-like device. And these are actually not made for diving, e.g. only checked for the usual 30min@1m or so as far as Garmin's website.

Ah... this is not amazing...

but if you dive with a drysuit, I guess you can bring them with you; not very comfortable maybe, but still useful.

Outdoor I do not see the advantage
 
Except that it merely allows you to pair it with a separate inReach transmitter. So in case e.g. current sweeps you away while diving, you still need to have been diving with this separate walkie-talkie-like device. And these are actually not made for diving, e.g. only checked for the usual 30min@1m or so as far as Garmin's website.

They make a dive case for the inreach.
 
The catch here is some of us don't want multiple devices. We want one that's always with us. I would go out of my mind if I was constantly having to swap what I was wearing and tracking on multiple different platforms. I don't want multiple ecosystems. You completely ignore the value of working in a single ecosystem. I also own garmin accessories (chest strap, running dynamics pod) along with a garmin bike computer (cadence sensor, speed sensor and chest strap for that too). It all talks.

How do you get your Teric dive data into Garmin? You can't. But I can put my Garmin dive data into Subsurface.

I'm not ignoring all that. To ME, I don't really see the value of having my dive data in the same "ecosystem" as any of the other data that a fitness watch would track. Even if I could have heart rate info in my dive data, why would I really care? What is really important is gas consumption and heart rate is really only another way of looking at that (I think) - and less good, really, than just having the consumption data.

Yes, you can put your Descent data into Subsurface. But, that is actually a negative point, to me. Not that you CAN put it in, but HOW you have to do it. You cannot download directly from the Descent into Subsurface. And, that is ONLY because Garmin dictated to the Subsurface developers to NOT allow it. Garmin required it to be done by downloading to Garmin and then exporting that to import into Subsurface.

I really like how easy it is to download via BT from my Predator or Teric directly into Subsurface on my phone, while I'm still out on the boat, usually. And then it is just "there" in Subsurface on my laptop when I get home, without any extra steps.

I don't see where having my dive data going through the cloud first and adding the extra steps required to get it into Subsurface would actually be BETTER for me, in any way.

Lastly, if it would drive you out of your mind to take off your Fenix and put on a Teric every time before you jump in the water for a dive, I really think this discussion is moot. I can't help you. :wink:

The value in having one ecosystem is only (to me) when it's one ecosystem for a substantially similar body of activity. Scuba diving is completely different (to me) than running or hiking or moutaineering or all those other things. Scuba is not a "fitness" activity, to me. It's a relaxation activity. Trying to cram those two things into one ecosystem is (to me) like saying I want my commuter car and my weekend camper hauler to be powered by the same "fuel". That is silly. Get an EV for commuting, and a diesel pickup for hauling your camper. Use the best tools for the jobs you're doing. In this example, I reckon a Teric is better for diving and a Fenix is better for fitness tracking. To me.
 
I guess I don't understand your point. You can put the Teric data into Subsurface too.

I think you missed what he was saying. The question is, why would I want to put my Teric data into the Garmin ecosystem?
 
I think you missed what he was saying. The question is, why would I want to put my Teric data into the Garmin ecosystem?
I left that out so my poke would be shorter.
 
I think you missed what he was saying. The question is, why would I want to put my Teric data into the Garmin ecosystem?

How many platforms do you keep data on? I'm going to guess you don't actually do any activities in which you track data other than dive.
 
How many platforms do you keep data on? I'm going to guess you don't actually do any activities in which you track data other than dive.

That is correct.

I apologize if my earlier posts came across as "attacking". That is not how I meant them.

Let me back up and approach this in a different way.

What value do you get from having your dive data in the same ecosystem as your running data?

I don't track any fitness data. I only have data that I track in the Subsurface ecosystem, so I realize that maybe I don't know what I'm missing.
 
A point of multi use; while for someone who does the multitude of activities, running:eek:, golfing:thumb2: etc. this is cool as there isn’t a lot that a malfunction will do other than be inconvient, a dive computer is a bit more important in this regard so for me wearing a dive computer during impact activities seems like a bad idea.
 
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