Hydros Pro

[BoundForElsewhere]

has anyone seen a dead horse around here? i swear, i keep hearing the beating but i just can't seem to find the dead horse.

 

[Cheizz]

That would be a Dead Horse Pro then...

 

[Robert H. Diver]

has anyone seen a dead horse around here? i swear, i keep hearing the beating but i just can't seem to find the dead horse.

 

[inquis]

What setup do you need with a BP/W?

I meant the initial weaving & sizing of the harness. Experience/expertise is widely varied in this regard and may be worth the premium to some buyers.

 

[inquis]

Is this right? I would think you are trying to say the stainless steel weight takes up more volume...

A 6 lb dry-weight stainless plate has a buoyancy of negative 5.22 lb. (Density of stainless is about 7.9 g/cm3 but displaces a fluid with density of 1.024 g/cm3 in seawater on average.) Assuming the Hydros was neutral, you can technically only drop 5.22 lb of lead when switching. Climbing the ladder, you will be 0.78 lb heavier.

 

[BoltSnap]

As in many other cases speaking of the price seems to me a bit pointless. Some people just cannot afford it and for others it is acceptable. For someone that cannot afford it, he will always find other products that do the job very well and for less money. Then in those threads we always have people saying that BP/W are better (did they try the Hydro Pro by the way to have a fair comparaison ?), yes we know !! It has been said thousands of time it is way better until the end of time

I couldn't agree with you more!

 

[BoltSnap]

A couple of other factors impact this.

1.) Some people can afford it, but the sacrifice is not minor, and they don't want to do that unless there is substantially enhanced value over alternatives.

The poster child for this is the top of the Atomic Aquatics regulator line, where someone may post asking about a roughly $1,500 model. Yes, there are people who can (and do) afford them, but many who can would choose not to once well informed how they stack up against competitors (including AA's own mid. range and lower end reg.s).

2.) Some people aren't fully aware of how alternatives stack up. On ScubaBoard, it's easy to assume everyone's familiar with jacket vs. rear-inflate vs. BP/W, but many divers get much of their info. by walking into a dive shop, which might limit the conversation a bit to what they sell. Some of those people pondering options may search online and end up here.

If someone with the money and well-informed of their options chooses to buy a ScubaPro Hydros Pro, that's cool.

For me, it's not about preaching BP/W, it's an analysis of what you get (in terms of features) and what you pay for that. In terms of features, there are some claims that get my eyebrows raised (5 kg being called 'light-weight' for example). And then there is the price for the entire thing does definitely get my eyebrows raised.

Why would I spend 2.5x’s more on the hydros pro when I could get a BPW for less that is more versatile and better quality? It’s excessively expensive for what it is. I’d love to know what features or advantages it provides that demand a $1200 price tag.

I gladly traded the 25-30 min it took me to set up my BPW for the over $700 I saved.

Once a short guy who couldn't reach the grapes on the grape tree said: "They must be sour" and went away.


You all should be using this and save money:

 

[Robert H. Diver]

Once a short guy who couldn't reach the grapes on the grape tree said: "They must be sour" and went away.


You all should be using this and save money:

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Aren’t you an instructor? Did you pay full price for your hydros or get a discount? Also we’re comparing apples to apples, your argument was apples to carrots….

 

[BoltSnap]

Aren’t you an instructor? Did you pay full price for your hydros or get a discount? Also we’re comparing apples to apples, your argument was apples to carrots….

What difference does it make if I get a 10 or 20% discount? I can get the same on the cheap stuff.


And yes, it isn't about apples to apples. You are actually the one comparing apples (of the highest grade) to carrots.

 

[Robert H. Diver]

What difference does it make if I get a 10 or 20% discount? I can get the same on the cheap stuff.


And yes, it isn't about apples to apples. You are actually the one comparing apples (of the highest grade) to carrots.

20% off a hydros is a big deal…and we’re comparing BCD’s not rigid back plates with no wing…you’re sarcastic argument is irrelevant in this discussion.