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but then again.... we are taught in confined water how to hover, and isnt a safety stop just a demo of a hover at a specific depth? and the compass skills are usually taught on land and then demoed in the water. but that is kinda nit-picking. so i guess what i am getting at is that by the...

you are correct highwing. although I thought that I put that on there (I meant to...)

the skill that is taught in open water that is NOT taught in confined is the straight line surface swim with a compass for 50 yards, and the underwater nav with reciprocal using a compass. you also have to demonstrate that you can descend using both with visual and without visual reference and...

Peter, what Colliam7 posted is SPOT ON correct. the instructor can provide indirect supervision IF a Certified DM or assistant instructor is leading the tour portion of dives 2, 3, or 4. But there was no CA that day, so the instructor had to have DIRECT supervision (meaning he or she has to be...

We may be splitting hairs on wording here. I am a Dive Master Candidate and dive at Lake Rawlings frequently. They could technically be called training dives as ther ARE part of your training to be a open water certified diver. But you are not really "training" at this point as you have should...

Glen, First off, I am truly sorry for the loss of your friend. I know I would be devastated if I lost a friend to an accident. And I will not post anything more on this subject on the forum. I also realize that the news report is probably screwed in various ways. But I was going by what the...

Kevin, I am NOT trying to say that you need more regulations or rules, but I would think that EVERYONE take missing diver scenerio very seriously and start the rescue or recovery organization as soon as possible. I do not know if Eduardo started immediatly or not, but given the news report...

thanks for the scenario Jax. I dont think my problem is with them having rescue gear on hand at every site. my problem with the whole thing is that nothing was even attempted to get organized until the girlfriend came back the second time and requested help again. That additional hour may not...

As I am not a cave diver, I do not know how everything is set up, but I am rescue certified and I was taught to never take a missing diver situation lightly. Dont they have an emergency kit set up for just this type of scenerio? I realize that there may not have been a chance to get divers in...

I am not saying that Eduardo did not do a great job in finding Larry and bringing him out or that he should have been put into the position of lifeguard without being asked to be before hand by Larry. My concern is just that he was told (according to the news report) by Larrys girlfriend that...

With me not being a cave diver, maybe I am wrong on this but I am a master scuba diver and I am a little confused on the way things supposedly went so please clarify. Was it not stated in the report that the diver told his gf that he should contact someone if he did not return in 1-1/2 hours...

we are all so sorry to hear of your loss Grace. Our hearts go out to you in this sad time. Know that we are ALL grieving your loss

50 is cold yes, but not cold in a drysuit. I guess temp effects everyone differently. you will also feel colder if you are unser stress or anxious so just relax... I did a dive in Lake Milbrook last December in a 7ml with hood and gloves and did not bother me much. I was comfortable diving...

we were there this past weekend. Computer read 57 degrees at Ms Nikki which is about 26 ft.

Great pic. you are gonna love scuba. is that your pinnacle WS or a rental? the pinnacle Merino 5mm suit is the best. good luck