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Brian,
In case you have not noticed, WW stays in the backround until things heat up. His first post in the discussion will often be a personal attack on someone who who has directed nothing to him. I got into this being critical of his attacks on 446. While he is no angel, 446 did not deserve the treatment he was receiving. That caused WW to fire off at me, and he has said so.
It is a better policy not to dignify such attacks, and I intend to exercise more restraint in the future. However, I reserve the right to defend myself and others as do all other sane persons.
As far as climbing the other hill, that is simply descriptive of what was going on and hardly a personal attack. Everyone around here does it from time to time.
By the way, I don't whine about how people treat me. I do complain about people treat other people. There is a difference. I can take all the crap that the bully crowd hands out around here. You try fighting that entire group off at once yourself.
At any rate you seem to believe that being mean some of the time is worse than being mean all the time and that it constitutes hypocracy. I think you are going a bit too far and holding me to a standard which does not exist, especially around here. You should be taking up these issues with some of the other parties to this bar fight. By the way, the comment you refer to was mild in comparison to the personal attack that WW made and was later removed by the moderators.
Your comments on gloves and dive training are well taken. I have actually seen a trio of divers tearing a path through a reef in the Bahamas with their fins. Whe I complained to the captain of the liveaboard, he warned them, but took no other action as the damage continued. While many divers are overweighted and have atrocious skills, fortunately very few of them behave anywhere near this badly. They seem to manage to stay off the bottom somehow. The main result of their poor skills is a short dive due to excessive air consumption. Poor bouyancy control may also present a safety risk, but low accident rates for recreational divers would indicate otherwise.
With all said, I continue to believe that requiring gloves helps and I agree more should be done in other areas. You probably know that the damage done by touching coral is not immediately visible so it is not as dramatic as some fin strikes. A photographer wearing gloves can touch a lot of coral in a one hour dive.
Do you find it offensive that I refer to people who sneak around the rules as creeps?
Finally, when I read the nonsense that some people around here try to pass off as debate, along with the frequent slurs, it really makes me wonder if wordsmithing is worth the effort, or if anyone around here is entitled to hear any interesting ideas that I may come up with.
In case you have not noticed, WW stays in the backround until things heat up. His first post in the discussion will often be a personal attack on someone who who has directed nothing to him. I got into this being critical of his attacks on 446. While he is no angel, 446 did not deserve the treatment he was receiving. That caused WW to fire off at me, and he has said so.
It is a better policy not to dignify such attacks, and I intend to exercise more restraint in the future. However, I reserve the right to defend myself and others as do all other sane persons.
As far as climbing the other hill, that is simply descriptive of what was going on and hardly a personal attack. Everyone around here does it from time to time.
By the way, I don't whine about how people treat me. I do complain about people treat other people. There is a difference. I can take all the crap that the bully crowd hands out around here. You try fighting that entire group off at once yourself.
At any rate you seem to believe that being mean some of the time is worse than being mean all the time and that it constitutes hypocracy. I think you are going a bit too far and holding me to a standard which does not exist, especially around here. You should be taking up these issues with some of the other parties to this bar fight. By the way, the comment you refer to was mild in comparison to the personal attack that WW made and was later removed by the moderators.
Your comments on gloves and dive training are well taken. I have actually seen a trio of divers tearing a path through a reef in the Bahamas with their fins. Whe I complained to the captain of the liveaboard, he warned them, but took no other action as the damage continued. While many divers are overweighted and have atrocious skills, fortunately very few of them behave anywhere near this badly. They seem to manage to stay off the bottom somehow. The main result of their poor skills is a short dive due to excessive air consumption. Poor bouyancy control may also present a safety risk, but low accident rates for recreational divers would indicate otherwise.
With all said, I continue to believe that requiring gloves helps and I agree more should be done in other areas. You probably know that the damage done by touching coral is not immediately visible so it is not as dramatic as some fin strikes. A photographer wearing gloves can touch a lot of coral in a one hour dive.
Do you find it offensive that I refer to people who sneak around the rules as creeps?
Finally, when I read the nonsense that some people around here try to pass off as debate, along with the frequent slurs, it really makes me wonder if wordsmithing is worth the effort, or if anyone around here is entitled to hear any interesting ideas that I may come up with.
