Help Choosing Liveaboard Options for Komodo and Raja Ampat Trips

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Hi all!

We are looking to book a liveaboard in Komodo (thinking about August) and one in Raja Ampat (thinking about December or March) but our past experiences in both areas have been very hit or miss so thought we'd tap into the experiences of folks here to try and pick a better-suited liveaboard option / itinerary for us.

We are most focused on good diving (e.g. good local dive guides who know the area well, can help find critters, and will dive safely (preference for 1-to-4 dive guide to people ratio)). We want better than basics (e.g. will pay for toilets that will flush and AC in the room), but don't care about "luxury" (e.g. very spacious rooms, really amazing food, etc.). I know there are some high-end boats that typically have good reviews (like the Damai or Arenui) but I'm not sure if the extra money is for more luxurious cabins / food experience or for actually better diving (itinerary or guide, etc.)? Do folks have a view on that and do you have some top favorites / definite repeats from a purely diving perspective? (We are willing to pay more for a "luxury" boat if that is what it takes to ensure safer and better diving experiences in the region, but would prefer not to if it doesn't impact diving.)

As some background, I have ~100 dives and my partner has ~40 dives. We are by no means very experienced but we have been on boats where the makeup of other divers significantly limited our itinerary (including ones where the paper profiles of other divers looked way more experienced, e.g. with 200+ quoted dives, but the actual reality was people struggled with basic buoyancy and ascent/descent), so it is important to us that we can get a boat better suited to our level / will split groups by level and not limit the itinerary too much. I understand dive count is not always a good measure so the best way I can think of to describe our level is we are still actively thinking about/making minor adjustments for buoyancy as we dive so neutral buoyancy is not "steeped in our bones" but we also don't need a dive guide to monitor / adjust buoyancy for us; we can go down and up and maneuver around formations when / how we intend / need to. We can't compete with dive guides in terms of air usage, but we have done currents (ex: Shotgun around new moon) and deep dives and won't run out of air on normal deep / current dives at 20-30min, but probably aren't at 60 min+ for those either.

We would also love opinions on best itineraries for Komodo and Raja Ampat. I've historically heard it's best to book LBJ-LBJ Komodo only or Sorong-Sorong RJ only trips as they stay in the region and are definitely not repositioning trips but noticed that a lot of the Komodo offerings seem to go through other areas (Moyo, Sangiang, Gili Banta, Alor etc.) even in peak season so was curious if any of those are good? We like diversity in our dives and enjoy looking at gorgeous coral gardens, massive schools of fish (big or small fish), and big stuff (sharks, mantas, dugongs, etc.) the most but will happily take a bit of macro diving too. I've previously done Komodo via Komodo Dive Resort and liveaboard in Raja Ampat (north route). I personally loved pretty much all my Komodo dives and thought Raja had some amazing schooling activity and biodiversity but the liveaboard dives were more hit or miss. Based on our interests, is Misool a must-hit? And how differently do folks think north Raja Ampat can be on a boat with more experienced divers or land-based resort with very localized dive guides (our Raja boat was the one where half the boat were "200+ dive" divers who struggled with descents and had frequent buoyancy "accidents" where they'd just shoot up to the surface when we hit 10meters and so our cruise director said we can only do the sites he thought they would be safe at)?
 
Dump the LOBs and do resort based diving if you want locals who know the local diving conditions and marine life.
 

Three dives a day and there is no schedule to worry about ie. flight. Time is the deciding factor.

If you have the time and inclination:

 
I did a 4 day trip in Komodo with Scuba Republic, the boat was Bajak. Can't say whether it was a good route because that's the only time that I've been to Komodo but there were definitely some great sites. My fav was Batu Bolong, I think it's highly recommended in general. The routes also change according to seasons, I think. I can definitely recommend the Bajak and Scuba Republik, though, so talk to them and see what they're offering. The manager is German with loads of experience in Komodo and the guides are all locals.
 
I have been on the New White Manta liveaboard in Raja Ampat including Misool (Jan 2023) and just got back from a trip on the Blue Manta liveaboard from Maumere to Komodo (April/May 2024) Both were excellent and highly recommended. White Manta trips are not cheap but are good value for what you get, 3-4 dives daily including night dives every night, large cabins, great food, excellent boat staff, other divers are younger and more international than other liveaboards. I would suggest doing a Komodo-only itinerary because the dives in the park are far superior to the 2-3 days of diving we did on the way, at sites to the north and east. You want a liveaboard in Komodo because the sites are VERY busy with other liveaboards and day boats, so it's great to have flexibility to dive when it's less crowded. In Oct 2023 I did a week of day boat dives out of Labuan Bajo (due to schedule and cost considerations) and the diving was great, but you have a 2 hour each way commute to get to the national park from LBJ and you will be diving with EVERYONE. In Raja Ampat rt from Sorong we did both Dampier Strait and Misool sites including the remote Daram islands. Surprisingly we thought the Dampier Strait had better diving than Misool; surprising because I dived at Misool Resort in Jan 2020 and I thought it was about the best diving anywhere. Be careful of Raja Ampat liveaboards that do not end at Sorong, because air connections are very flaky elsewhere. Re White Manta the guides are very good even if not all locals, but some are better than others at finding great stuff. Solo, I was tossed in with other odds and ends so it was pot luck. You are less experienced than most other divers you would meet, but if you are comfortable in currents and have good buoyancy control you will have a great time.
 
We just dove for a few days in Lembeh with a guy fresh off Seahorse, for something like the 10th time. He (obviously) thinks very highly of it, eight diver max and varied routes. I dont know more than that, except that it’s a pretty boat with positive reviews.
 
White Manta was excellent. Seahorse was also very, very good, though my experience with Seahorse is now about 5 years old.

Also, can vouch for Scuba Junkies. Three dives a day, good diving. Food was good, AC kept my room cool. No Nitrox, but you really don't go deep often, and on some dives not at all. Only downside is that it has divers of varying levels (its price range goes from backpacker to AC rooms), and you might get put with a less than experienced group.
 
I dove Komodo and Raja (2x) with Mermaid fleet, and I would pick them again any day. My last trip with them (2019) was one of their Raja crossings trips - which are a little longer and you see a bit more of the sea. I would do one of those again in a heartbeat (and that will be my next Indo LOB). For Komodo they go to/from Bali so they do a day with the whale sharks, and they also go to S. Komodo which most of the 1wk trips do not go on. It is supposed to still be nicer down there, but I have not been in a long time. They are a "middle tier" cost wise I guess, maybe upper middle these days since there are so many boats... but they have been diving there for decades, and the staff and boats are great. Of course the LUX boats are more LUX but as with you that is not my motive.
 

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