Is anyone diving any of these???????
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Crazyduck
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OK,
This information is only good until Stefan pops in a blows me away with the exact- Historical stuff.
FROG- Is the only active working unit. Web- http://www.frogdiver.com/
I saw one last year at DEMA and was mildly impressed. However, very few people dive them to date that I am aware of. Most people go with the KISS system instead.
Aura- The last I heard it was purchased buy a business in Boston (or area) and they were developing it into a special "High end" system for specific scientific diving. However to date I have nothing more on that front. Very nice design taken off of the MK15.5.
Cochran- This was developed but never materialized for actual sale. At that time Cochran had all kinds of problems and ditched the project. You would now recognize the unit as a PRISM rebreather. Peter actually did the work for Cochran but things did not work out.
infineto- THe person to ask about this is Joe R. he has done dives on the unit and is aware of activity of the unit. It seems that it sold to certain Military groups but never made the open marketplace. Again Joe has those details.
So, the only one that exists in any format is the PRISM!
Not like I am biased??? HEHEHEHE
Andrew
This information is only good until Stefan pops in a blows me away with the exact- Historical stuff.
FROG- Is the only active working unit. Web- http://www.frogdiver.com/
I saw one last year at DEMA and was mildly impressed. However, very few people dive them to date that I am aware of. Most people go with the KISS system instead.
Aura- The last I heard it was purchased buy a business in Boston (or area) and they were developing it into a special "High end" system for specific scientific diving. However to date I have nothing more on that front. Very nice design taken off of the MK15.5.
Cochran- This was developed but never materialized for actual sale. At that time Cochran had all kinds of problems and ditched the project. You would now recognize the unit as a PRISM rebreather. Peter actually did the work for Cochran but things did not work out.
infineto- THe person to ask about this is Joe R. he has done dives on the unit and is aware of activity of the unit. It seems that it sold to certain Military groups but never made the open marketplace. Again Joe has those details.
So, the only one that exists in any format is the PRISM!
Not like I am biased??? HEHEHEHE
Andrew
jptrealty:
caveseeker7
Contributor
Now why would I do such a thing? :11:Crazyduck:
FROG-
The Frog is indeed in production, and the unit that was shown at DEMA is covered on Rebreather Worldwide . It's an SCR with a needle valve and the option of two O2 sensors. The company promotes using it as a CCR with dil addition through the ADV and O2 addition by manually opening and closing the O2 tank valve. Certifying agency is some unknown outfit in Florida.
Aura
The CCR 2000 is an on again off again propsition. The old website is still up, but afaik the unit isn't currently in production and hasn't been for two or three years. Some guy here locally has a bunch of those junk heaps, at least that's how I see them. No secondary display whatsoever! Instead when the electronics fail the unit is supposed to run automatically at 0.7 ata setpoint and you're supposed to trust it. Quite big, very heavy metal cannister, pita spheres ... they took the worst of the MK15 and made it worse.
Cochran-
Andrew is correct, Pete was involved with Cochran for a while. Didn't work out, and Cochran showed rigs at dive shows for years. Last time I saw it was 2002 or 2003. The picture by Wes Skiles below is a decade old and was shot in Florida, there are a couple more on Steam Machine's website.
Infineto-
The big mystery rig ... the company was supposedly busy building them for a military, but some rumors say they never filled the contract. Who knows ... my guess in regards to the civilian market: vaporware.
caveseeker7
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Crazyduck
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caveseeker7:Now why would I do such a thing? :11:
I know better its that Geman hardwiring- I am just jealous!
Well, thats my online statement-
FROG-
The Frog is indeed in production, and the unit that was shown at DEMA is covered on. It's an SCR with a needle valve and the option of two O2 sensors. The company promotes using it as a CCR with dil addition through the ADV and O2 addition by manually opening and closing the O2 tank valve. Certifying agency is some unknown outfit in Florida.
(I always thought that this was like bagging you a rebreather- check out there scubber. hehehehe)
Aura
extra charater- as required by software
The CCR 2000 is an on again off again propsition. The old website is still up, but afaik the unit isn't currently in production and hasn't been for two or three years. Some guy here locally has a bunch of those junk heaps, at least that's how I see them. No secondary display whatsoever! Instead when the electronics fail the unit is supposed to run automatically at 0.7 ata setpoint and you're supposed to trust it. Quite big, very heavy metal cannister, pita spheres ... they took the worst of the MK15 and made it worse.
I like the way it looked but that was about it.
Infineto-
The big mystery rig ... the company was supposedly busy building them for a military, but some rumors say they never filled the contract. Who knows ... my guess in regards to the civilian market: vaporware.
I think that you are being nice!
extra charater
caveseeker7:Now why would I do such a thing? :11:
FROG-
The Frog is indeed in production, and the unit that was shown at DEMA is covered on Rebreather Worldwide . It's an SCR with a needle valve and the option of two O2 sensors. The company promotes using it as a CCR with dil addition through the ADV and O2 addition by manually opening and closing the O2 tank valve. Certifying agency is some unknown outfit in Florida.
Aura
The CCR 2000 is an on again off again propsition. The old website is still up, but afaik the unit isn't currently in production and hasn't been for two or three years. Some guy here locally has a bunch of those junk heaps, at least that's how I see them. No secondary display whatsoever! Instead when the electronics fail the unit is supposed to run automatically at 0.7 ata setpoint and you're supposed to trust it. Quite big, very heavy metal cannister, pita spheres ... they took the worst of the MK15 and made it worse.
Cochran-
Andrew is correct, Pete was involved with Cochran for a while. Didn't work out, and Cochran showed rigs at dive shows for years. Last time I saw it was 2002 or 2003. The picture by Wes Skiles below is a decade old and was shot in Florida, there are a couple more on Steam Machine's website.
Infineto-
The big mystery rig ... the company was supposedly busy building them for a military, but some rumors say they never filled the contract. Who knows ... my guess in regards to the civilian market: vaporware.
The company promotes using it as a CCR with dil addition through the ADV and O2 addition by manually opening and closing the O2 tank valve
for real??? LOL, by the way that was a very nice fact based slam of that CCR2000 idiot.
caveseeker7
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Yes. Caught me by suprise, too. Asked twice at the show and made a follow up byjptrealty:
phone afterwards. Wanted to be sure they actually weren't kidding or intoxicated.
They keep insisting that's a way to go ... and I still don't agree it's a good idea.
bruehlt
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Frog - disposable scrubber??! ***??
Crazyduck
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bruehlt:
No the first and shirely (ha) not the last!
There is one for the Dolphin and now the Oppptima.
Andrew
caveseeker7
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Yes, the original idea was disposable pre-packed cannisters.bruehlt:
That's the difference between the Frog's and Micropore's cartridges.
The Frog's are filled with grannular absorbant. Expensive and wastefull
with less advantages than the ExtendAir cartridges.
So upon customer request Lambertsen started offering refillable cartridges, too.
If you follow the Frog link that I posted you can see a picture of it.
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