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Is there a time limit after classroom and pool.

Discussion in 'New Divers and Those Considering Diving' started by deaf diver, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    You are correct. The 12-month expiration is only for referrals, not interrupted training with the same instructor or dive shop. However, (a) new paperwork needs to be completed, and (b) the instructor is obliged to reassess/remediate the student as to both knowledge and in-water skills.

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  2. JackD342

    JackD342 Dive Shop

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    That’s what I was looking for!!
    I’ll have to send a note suggesting that is included somewhere in the Instructor’s Manual or the Guide To Teaching rather than only in a 2007 bulletin.
     
  3. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Yeah, there is a LOT of useful stuff in those Training Bulletins....I wish much of it were in the IM. I actually preferred the old IM to the current minimalist version. Taking out all that good stuff and moving it to a different publication (Guide to Teaching) was not a good move, IMHO. It is not longer an Instructor Manual, it is a Summary of Standards. Now we have to look in three places to find things....
     
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  4. Beyond_Diving

    Beyond_Diving Dive Shop

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    Personally, I wouldn't take a student for their open water dives after 14 months (even if it wasn't a referral) without first doing a thorough assessment of theory and in-water skills. Even after a couple of months, it has been my experience (from students that have been referred to my shop) that a good chunk of the skills have been forgotten regardless of how well they did them in the pool the first time around... but then again, I've seen people who claim to have dozens or even hundreds of dives who can't clear their masks properly..
     
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  5. JackD342

    JackD342 Dive Shop

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    I think you would be hard pressed to find someone that disagrees.
     
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  6. pconsidine

    pconsidine ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I would have to get student into a pool first to evaluate retained skills and go from there before I would proceed to open water training..
     
  7. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Yep, that's what the standards say. Evaluate and remediate as needed....THEN move on to continuing the course.
     
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  8. pconsidine

    pconsidine ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Agree 100%
     

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