Nikon 18 - 200 mm lens

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Try Murphy Camera here in Louisville 502-423-1080

You will pay full retail. However, in December when D200's were on backorder everywhere in the world...I walked in and bought one (could have bought 2 if I wanted 2). When I decided on the 18-200....I walked in and the had some. They could be out, but it is worth a call.

HTH,
Dave
 
ssra30:
17-55mm lens is an incredible lens. I was going to get it but now that most likely Nikon will go full frame within the next 1 to 2 generation of dSLR, I am not sure that I really want to invest in another DX lens, especially the pricey one. There are still so many lenses on my wishlist that for now, I think I am going to invest in non DX lens first.

If Nikon is going to go FF, expect that the lens mount will change. Canon changed their lens mount (and pissed of a LOT of pro's) when they came out with AF. Nikon did not.

I've spoke with a lot of Nikon Reps, and while they generally don't agree on a lot of things, one thing they all have told me is that a big reason Nikon is having trouble with a FF sensor is because their lens mount is too small. Kodak did a FF Nikon mount, but the light falloff was so bad that some lenses were not even usable.

What I am suggesting is that if Nikon goes FF, it maybe with a different mount, so all your lenses may not work in any event.

I could be wrong (I certainly have been before!), but I'd not make too many choices based on the future of Nikon FF.
 
RonFrank:
If Nikon is going to go FF, expect that the lens mount will change. Canon changed their lens mount (and pissed of a LOT of pro's) when they came out with AF. Nikon did not.

I've spoke with a lot of Nikon Reps, and while they generally don't agree on a lot of things, one thing they all have told me is that a big reason Nikon is having trouble with a FF sensor is because their lens mount is too small. Kodak did a FF Nikon mount, but the light falloff was so bad that some lenses were not even usable.

What I am suggesting is that if Nikon goes FF, it maybe with a different mount, so all your lenses may not work in any event.

I could be wrong (I certainly have been before!), but I'd not make too many choices based on the future of Nikon FF.

I heard similar things through my Nikon contact. However, my best guess is that the new mount will not be significantly different and the new FF nikon will be back compatible with the current mount although the new mount will be optimized for FF dSLR. NOw that the D2X has been updated, I would expect to see FF dSLR in the next 12-18 months so it would not make much sense for Nikon to release the new 105mm AF-S VR which is significantly more expensive than the old one then for it not be be compatible with their new flagship camera in such a short time, relatively speaking in Nikon product cycle. Some people even think that it will have a fast cropped mode like in D2X where you can use the current DX lens with that mode as well. I guess there is no way to know for sure right now but I probably would rather invest in expensive FF lens now instead of expensive DX lens, just in case.
 
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ssra30:
I heard similar things through my Nikon contact. However, my best guess is that the new mount will not be significantly different and the new FF nikon will be back compatible with the current mount although the new mount will be optimized for FF dSLR. NOw that the D2X has been updated, I would expect to see FF dSLR in the next 12-18 months so it would not make much sense for Nikon to release the new 105mm AF-S VR which is significantly more expensive than the old one then for it not be be compatible with their new flagship camera in such a short time, relatively speaking in Nikon product cycle. Some people even think that it will have a fast cropped mode like in D2X where you can use the current DX lens with that mode as well. I guess there is no way to know for sure right now but I probably would rather invest in expensive FF lens now instead of expensive DX lens, just in case.

I think Nikon has two choices, well maybe three. The first would be to move the sensor plane back. I don't know how much issue this would be from a light falloff standpoint, but problems with this approach include creating a monster size camera body, but you could use the current lensmount.

Option two is to widen the lensmount. No way around it if you don't want to increase the distance between the lens and sensor. This would mean that current lenses would just not fit. They would likley come out with an adapter, and I bet you're right that they could easily put together a crop mode to use DX lenses, the old mount, and the new mount. I don't think this option would be well received, but Canon was in a similar position when it made this bold move during the AF revolution.

Option three is redefine the laws of Physics! Seriously, new technology could be on the horizon, and I'm not suggesting just more mpix. I'm suggesting a sensor design that just blows out the current designs in the way they capture light and store data. If you don't need a FF sensor, why have one? Currently if the pixel size is smaller the noise is greater. Given two 4mpix camera's the one with the larger sensor (larger pixels) will have less noise, and better resolution. OK, now just get around those two tiny details, and you are home free! No need for a bigger sensor, in fact downsize that puppy! :lol:

But we want FF, the cry goes out from the horn dog die hard film shooter masses! My thought, get over it. The entire 35mm basis was done simply because THAT sized film was avaiable at the time (think movie film), and for no other reason than that. Now people act as if 24mmx36mm actually makes the BEST size, nonesense! People just don't like change.

Nikon's timetable for planning releases would mean that IF they have a FF sensor camera coming out, they have addressed these issues, have a solution, and it's only a matter of a few months before WE hear about it. We shall see.
 
RonFrank:
But we want FF, the cry goes out from the horn dog die hard film shooter masses! My thought, get over it. The entire 35mm basis was done simply because THAT sized film was avaiable at the time (think movie film), and for no other reason than that. Now people act as if 24mmx36mm actually makes the BEST size, nonesense! People just don't like change.

I completely agree. The only reason I would consider FF sensor is that the 12-24DX is not really in the same league as the 17-35 F2.8 lens on FF sensor. I have absolutely no complain about the 10.5mm DX and love shooting macro on cropped sensor.

I am definitely curious to see what Nikon has up its sleeve. I assume that we will hear something soon as Canon is rumored to just about to release information about the D1s Mk II replacement in the near future.
 
Ssra30, I feel much like you about FF.

Now I only think in keeping a 10Mp DX body for UW...
I think the 10.5 is better than the 16mm,
and the 105 looks much better on the DX sensor,
its also better for super-macro work.

Aside from the 10.5 I think a lot about buying the Sigma 10-20mm.
 

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