Out of air emergency at 105 feet

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nuts4corals

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I just got back from vacation where I experienced a divers worst nightmare... An out of air emergency.

The dive started out with a briefing and a plan with the dive master on the boat. This was to be my last set of tank dives while in Mexico. I was diving all week long and loving it. After the briefing a pre dive check with the buddy teams and we were in the water and on our way down to the reef. The plan was to dive to around 95 feet and work our way to the top of the wall at around 55 feet and then ascend to our safety stop and on to the surface. About 15 minutes into the dive the dive master spotted a huge grouper under a ledge at about 105 feet and finned over to it. Being a bit of an air hog at depth, I decided to stay put at 97 feet as there was a fair current and wanted to stick to the plan anyway. I was able to see his huge head peering from under the ledge anyway so I was cool with staying put. In the distance, I notice the Dive master checking his gauge and swim towards me from a fair distance. Thinking nothing of it I turn in the direction we were heading and waited for the DM to get in the leading position. However, he came in front of me and motioned that he’s out of air. Without thinking I reached down and grabbed my Octo and brought it up as he wasted no time in taking hold and taking a nice big breath of air…I motioned if he was ok…. All ok…In the short few seconds this was going on I noticed we drifted a bit off the wall so I motioned to the DM to get to the wall so we had some shelter and control from the current. At the wall I checked my gauge and had about 1700 psi. We both looked at each other and motioned to surface after he motioned for the rest of the group to continue on the dive with the second group in the water. We began our ascend to the surface from around 90 feet. At about 40 feet I noticed my dive computer alerting me to slow the ascend a bit. He was understandably nervous so I motioned him to slow the ascend which he did slightly… As we were heading to our safety stop depth of 20 feet I check my gauge and we had a bit under 1500 psi so I motioned to level off and do a 3 min. safety stop. He paused for a moment and then motioned to me no safety stop lets go to the surface. After thinking about that for a moment I followed his advice and we began our final ascend to the surface thinking he‘s a dive master and perhaps there is something wrong that he needs to get to the surface. I think the only reason I listened to him and ascended without a safety stop is that he was a dive master. However, if he was another diver I would have probably made the person do a safety stop and watched the gauge like a hawk.

At the surface we had a few minutes and the first thing that I asked was… “What happened?” this is when he told me that he never checked his gauge getting into the water and he went down with a half tank of air. I remember thinking- ok dumb a$$ move but I guess it could happen especially if you are responsible for 8 divers, but what about checking the gauges when you descend to the bottom or every few minutes??? We were just about a half done with the dive and he never bothered to check his gauges. The very next question is why didn’t we do a safety stop. He said that in an emergency the thing to do is to get to the surface. However, I remember in my PADI class that in an emergency you still do a safety stop (air permitting). I mentioned that we had about 1500 psi when we reached our safety stop depth of 20 feet an by that point he was calmer so I felt that we should have done the stop.

Looking back on this unfortunate incident I would like to get a better understanding of what actually should have happened in terms of a safety stop. Air permitting should we have done the stop for 3 minutes? Or was it the right thing to get to the surface right away when sharing a single tank? I can honestly say that I am glad nothing happened and we are both safe and the best advice to anyone in the same situation that I can give is in an emergency being calm is soooo important. I feel that I was very calm and very level headed and that made all of the difference IMHO. Any pointers and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, the second and final dive of the trip was awesome and very relaxing and the DM did check his gauges probably more than anyone. :D
 
You didn't mention total bottom time, but as long as everyone was ok and calm I would have done the stop, especially since you had been pretty deep.

In fact when the DM signalled to surface from the safety stop depth I might very well have simply signaled "OK" and then waved "bye bye" to him.

:d
 
nuts4corals:
I just got back from vacation where I experienced a divers worst nightmare... An out of air emergency.

Well, I disagree with it being a diver's worse nightmare, especially since you weren't out of air. I can think of several things in diving that are far worse than bringing up an OOA diver.

nuts4corals:
Air permitting should we have done the stop for 3 minutes? Or was it the right thing to get to the surface right away when sharing a single tank?

Ideally, you would make the safety stop, especially since your ascent was a tad fast. Things were not ideal, the OOA diver was signalling to ascent to the surface. He may have been half a second from panic and safety stops are optional, a very good idea, but optional.

nuts4corals:
I can honestly say that I am glad nothing happened and we are both safe and the best advice to anyone in the same situation that I can give is in an emergency being calm is soooo important.

Excellent point.

nuts4corals:
Any pointers and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Think about possibilities in advance and stay calm. I think you did a great job!
 
After a week of diving and to 90+ feet on that dive? I think I would have stayed and done the safety stop. He could have done it with you or he could have easily swam to the surface.
 
Yep, I would wave bye bye as he should be able to get to the surface under his own doing a CESA. If permitting on air which you were, always do a 3 min safety (especially if your assent alarm went off). Some dive computers will put you into ERROR mode if you do not which prevents any additional dives.

In rescue, you are trained to never put yourself in jeopardy and that means sometimes releasing the victim and allowing them to accent on their own provided that they are already buoyant.

Your feelings are right, on questioning his actions. Kudos to you for being there for him and hopefully he has had some time to think about his actions to keep this from happening in the future.
 
Interesting story. He's never going to live this one down... how many times were we drilled on checking your air before jumping off the boat? My computer has a nice feature where I can set a turn on pressure alarm. If I hit the water and the pressure is below the threshold I set, it yells at me.

I also agree that you should have done a safety stop, providing there was enough air for both of you. That's what I remember from my wife's class anyways.




Ken
 
Nuts,

You are new to the board (I recently joined as well) and your profile does not tell your age or experience (please fill it in and continue to share with us). However, calm thinking, maturity (sometimes comes with age), and experience, certainly can trump some young person with the professional label of "divemaster". I hope he learned.

Yes, you did the right thing. I agree with Walter - the divemaster "may have been half a second from panic" and actually "needed you" to keep him calm. Insisting him to go to the top alone may have pushed him over the edge and safety stops are optional (though I would call anything time I dive 50+ feet mandatory).

You made the right call - but ideally, stopping at 20 feet and sending him to the top and making your safety stop would have been a good call. Glad you and he did not end up in a decompression chamber (unlikely, but that is what safety stops are for - especially after a week of diving!).
 
I He said that in an emergency the thing to do is to get to the surface. However, I remember in my PADI class that in an emergency you still do a safety stop (air permitting).

First off, kudos to you for handling this situation so well. From how you describe things, it sounds as if you acted as the divemaster in this scenario. If events happened exactly as you mention, I see absolutely no room for discussion in this case. You were right and the DM was wrong. Personally, I would go as far and say he acted unprofessionally and it is a shame that an idiot like him can work as a DM. What he said to (quoted above) is complete BS. First off, there was no emergency. Second, you are absolutely right in saying that especially after a deep dive like yours, you should always do a stop, air permitting. Don't second-guess yourself, you did all the right things, except insisting on a stop, which IMHO you should have done. I hope you reported this incident to the dive operation and to the agency (PADI for example). It sounds like their staff are seriously deficient in knowledge and skills and it sounds like an accident waiting to happen.
 
Nice job handling the situation - you were much more composed than the DM. Not checking air gauge is inexcusable. Well done on your part.
 
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