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Pay me to dive my reef in the Fl Keys

Discussion in 'Florida' started by DennisS, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. DennisS

    DennisS Marine Scientist

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    I’m amazed someone would even propose such a takeover of public land. The council can take their idea and put it where the sun doesn't shine

    Group proposes running Florida reefs for profit - Environment - MiamiHerald.com

    Group proposes running Florida reefs for profit
    By CHRISTINE STAPLETON
    A market-oriented conservation group suggestion to lease reefs to improve protection draw fire from diver groups, other critics
    By CHRISTINE STAPLETON
    Palm Beach Post
    Private companies and nonprofits could lease plots on Florida’s reefs and charge fees to dive boats, fishing charters and others to use them under a proposal raised for discussion by an environmental group of influential conservatives and libertarians.
    The proposal, which also advocates opening the banned commercial trade of corals, is designed to encourage conservation and restoration of Florida’s coral reefs by creating a financial incentive to do so. The Conservation Leadership Council released the proposal and five other “actionable suggestions” at its inaugural conference in Washington this month.
    “We believe many of the best solutions will be found in market-oriented policy,” council member Gale Norton, who was secretary of the interior during the George W. Bush administration, said at the opening of the conference. “The Conservation Leadership Council looks for fresh proposals that can reach environmental goals while finding mechanisms that conservatives and libertarians can embrace.”
    However, some reef users are not embracing the idea.
    “That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard,” said Skip Commagere, owner of Force-E dive shops in Riviera Beach, Boca Raton and Pompano Beach. “I’m slightly to the right of Attila the Hun, but I’m at a loss for trying to figure out how this could benefit anyone.”
    The council hopes to establish “the conservative voice for environmental stewardship” rooted in “fiscal responsibility, limited government and market entrepreneurship.” Norton, who was travelling after the conference, referred questions about the proposal to a spokesperson, who did not contact The Palm Beach Post.
    Kameran Onley, a board member and director of U.S. Marine Policy for the Nature Conservancy, said in an email that “the ideas put forward in the publication are simply intended to stimulate discussion. They are not endorsed by the CLC and are not endorsed by The Nature Conservancy.”
    According to the council’s press release about its conference earlier this month, the six policy studies commissioned by the council also address operating state parks through public-private partnerships that would allow private food concessions, retail, lodging and overall management of state parks. Another policy paper proposes creating a credit-trading system to protect threatened species.
    The theory behind the reef proposal is that there is little public sector incentive to protect and restore the reefs because there is “no clear ownership… and no meaningful limit on access.”
    Private companies and nonprofits would have a financial stake in the health of the reef — and therefore pay for preservation and restoration — if they could charge for access, the council policy paper contends. “Market-based strategies have the potential to generate stable and long-term funding… but only if the legal institutions governing coral reefs allow producers of reef restoration to charge the consumer of reef restoration.”
    Lessees could also limit damage to the reef by excluding users who might damage it by dragging anchors or harvesting species living on the reef, it said. According to the policy paper: “Since no one owns the coral reefs off Florida’s coast, no one group has taken ownership of the problem of reef degradation… The issue is one of property rights.”

    Read more here: Group proposes running Florida reefs for profit - Environment - MiamiHerald.com
     
  2. reebok

    reebok Nassau Grouper

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    there is no perfect way, but privatization is the best way to protect anything.
     
  3. SavageRon

    SavageRon Divemaster Candidate

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    Trusting a corporation to protect anything is about the epitome of insanity.
    And if politicians of any party like it, it's obviously a bad idea.
     
  4. Keith.M

    Keith.M PADI Pro

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    I hope you are joking? That is the craziest thing I have heard lately. Motivated by profit is all that is. You did notice how these "conservatives and libertarians" also want to open back up the trading of coral? Do you seriously think that will benefit the environment?
     
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  5. lionfish-eater

    lionfish-eater Photographer

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    All earth's resources are up for grabs, or already in private hands. Norton/bush/cheney gave away leases like they were election souvenirs. Politicians are obligated to return favor in exchange for money, they are barred from giving us anything in return for our votes.
     
  6. Wookie

    Wookie Secret Field Agent ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    As long as the folks managing the reefs guarantee refs comparable with other parts of the world like Fiji, Lambeh, etc, I'd accept their fee based management. I want those pristine reefs guaranteed, however.
     
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  7. reefman

    reefman Regular of the Pub

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    in my view, this preposterous proposal has absloutley no shot of implementation in the FKNMS, at least in federal waters,,,,,,,



    reefman
    key largo
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2013
  8. deeper thoughts

    deeper thoughts Solo Diver

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    You would think so. Nevertheless if I told you 15 yrs ago that it would be illegal to smoke in YOUR own car while on a college campus you would call me a nut.
     
  9. Rich Keller

    Rich Keller Solo Diver

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    "The proposal, which also advocates opening the banned commercial trade of corals, is designed to encourage conservation and restoration of Florida’s coral reefs by creating a financial incentive to do so."

    There is no way they are going to do anything other then plunder the reefs for profit AND you have to pay them to see the reef before it is gone! :angrymob:
     
  10. reefman

    reefman Regular of the Pub

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    depends on what your smokin,,,,,,,,,,,


    reefman
    key largo
     

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