I just stick my camera in TV, strobes on ttl and off I go
I think that is the problem, if you do just that with the Inon UFL165AD that was being discussed you may find ugly ghosting or interesting (or ugly) flare.
However, now I am stepping out. Even though I actually own and use all of these lenses and have experimented in quite some amount with all of them, attempting to convey information about the topic being discussed is more trouble than it is worth sometimes.
To some suggestion earlier, yes, I think the portrait position does aggravate the ghosting.
Hope y'all figure it out, I have for myself. Bye.
James