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Reef friendly sunscreen and hair products

Discussion in 'Women's Perspectives' started by kimbalabala, May 13, 2017.

  1. Stream2Sea

    Stream2Sea ScubaBoard Business Sponsor ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    Hey @kimbalabala ! Sorry for my delay... I need to do a better job monitoring here :) There's nothing wrong with coconut oil for protection. We use alot in our formulas, but it doesn't do much for the detangling. If it works for you, fantastic. If you need more, perhaps try the oil before the dive, but a little of our Leave In afterwards.

    Regarding higher SPFs, as you have heard, sunscreens with very high SPFs offer only marginally better UVB protection (the rays that cause sunburn) than lower SPFs, yet consumers often believe they are getting double the protection. It would be logical to think that an SPF 30 would be twice as good as a 15, but that’s not how the ratings work. For example, an SPF 15 will block about 93% of the UVB rays, an SPF 30 will block about 97% and an SPF 50 will block about 98%. Beyond and SPF 30, the differences in protection are so minute yet give the users such a false sense of security that it may tempt people to stay in the sun longer than they should, while applying too little sunscreen. Your skin may be protected from sunburn, but could leave yourself exposed to the UVA rays that cause other kinds of skin and cellular damage.

    We've also found that its really tough to get beyond an SPF 30 without using the chemical filters like oxybenzone, octinoxate, etc. Also, keep in mind that a water resistant product like ours was tested to be SPF 20 and SPF 30 AFTER 80 minutes in a water bath. That's the way the testing works :) I personally prefer the SPF 20 (its a little lighter) and have found that as long as I reapply every couple hours in the water, I am well protected.
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    Let me know if you have any other questions!
    Autumn

    PS. I haven't figured out how to toggle between the business and personal profile. @Wookie I need lessons... preferably on a boat.
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2017
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  2. Wookie

    Wookie ScubaBoard Business Sponsor Staff Member ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    We have decided on the boat, after letting another one go at auction this week. Patience, Autumn. Remember how long it took to get Stream2Sea to market after you conceptualized it.
     
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  3. kimbalabala

    kimbalabala Barracuda

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    Autumn, thank you so much for the information! I have had 5 Mohs surgeries to remove skin cancer (only basal and squamous, thank goodness) and I cover up with clothing from neck to toe and use the sunscreen on all other unprotected areas. I look like Casper the Friendly ghost in spandex wearing a floppy hat!! (And yes, I try to invest in SPF clothing as well - Coolibar and bamboo cloth). I'm that geek on the boat!! Whatever! I'm really happy to use your product, knowing it's good for me AND good for the ocean. Thanks again!
     
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  4. NYCNaiad

    NYCNaiad Hilariously absurd divebabble Staff Member

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    I'm that geek on the boat as well. But not only will you benefit in terms of helping to prevent more skin cancer, but both of us will look gorgeous in old age & can then make fun of our sun-worshipping wrinkled old dive buddies. :) (Repeating this to myself really helped on a dive in the Solomons when one chick was tan & bikini-clad while I was in my one-piece, covered by a dive skin, slathered in sunscreen, wearing a hat & glasses underneath the awning. lol)
     
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  5. kimbalabala

    kimbalabala Barracuda

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    LOL! I'll be watching for you on every dive boat! :wink:
     
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  6. kimbalabala

    kimbalabala Barracuda

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    UPDATE: The Stream2Sea worked great! Of course it was super easy to tell if I missed a spot because if anyplace wasn't white it meant I'd missed a spot! I wish there was a true invisible zinc oxide but hey, it protects me while protecting the ocean life so I can do this.

    I want to bi*&% and moan about something though. We went on one of those "swim with the whaleshark" excursions and they had a rule against wearing ANY sunblock!!! I told them about my skin cancer and my Stream2Sea and they gave me the green light to use it. But it was a long day and I didn't re-apply (my own fault) and ended up burned on my face/neck and hands. (My dermatologist was not happy with the ban on sunblock when I told her about it the following week).

    Autumn, if you're still haunting the thread, you might want to reach out to these operators and suggest them charging a surcharge and then keeping a few tubes on the boats for their customers. It would be a good way to protect the ocean AND get your product name out there. They could include a note on their website saying "DO NOT APPLY SUNSCREEN PRIOR TO EXCURSION. WE WILL PROVIDE STREAM2SEA, WHICH IS SAFE FOR OUR OCEANS!".
     
  7. Patoux01

    Patoux01 Solo Diver

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    Any info on what to use for those of us in Europe? I don't have much hair and dive in lakes so it's not "directly impacting" the seas (it gets diluted a fair bit), but it gets in the ocean eventually, and I suspect it affects our freshwater wildlife as well.
     
  8. Patoux01

    Patoux01 Solo Diver

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    So after reading quite a bit with it, I couldn't find anything that was guaranteed reef friendly... So I went with DERMATHERM HIGH SUN PROTECTION SPF30 150ML DERMATHERM - Easyparapharmacie
    The ingredients are:
    Citrus aurantium dulcis fruit axtract, zinc oxide, caprylic/capric triglyceride, olive glycerides, heptyl undecylenate, isocetyl stearate, titanium dioxide, dicaprylyl carbonate, silica, thermal aqua, polyglyceryl-3 diisostearate, sucrose tristearate, pongamol, glyceryl isostearate, polyglyceryl-2 dipolyhydroxystearate, stearic acid, magnesium sulfate, cera alba, polyhydroxystearic acid, xanthan gum, alumina, aluminium hydroxide, tocopherol, bixa orellana seed extract, helianthus annuus seed oil, karanjin, aqua, sodium hydroxide.

    I have no idea if this does the job, I hope it does, because it sure was expensive :(. Can anyone help?
     
  9. kimbalabala

    kimbalabala Barracuda

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    You might find a list of 'bad' ingredients and 'good' ingredients if you go to the Stream2Sea website. It sure seems that if we pay a lot of money it SHOULD be ok!!!!
     
  10. Patoux01

    Patoux01 Solo Diver

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    Well, I just re-read the email I've had from Stream2Sea again, and I missed a step :(. At least I tried, I guess it's still "not the worst"...
    I missed the "coated" part...


    I'm probably overthinking this though. With the amounts I (and my family) use, and the time I spend in the water wearing sunscreen, It's probably not that big of a deal...
     
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