shore snorkeling near Laguna Beach

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Hello everyone, I may be spending 6 weeks in California (all of May and first half of June), Laguna Beach area. I've never been to Cali, actually I've hardly been west of the Mississippi. I've tried searching this forum, but I don't have a clue where these beaches/cities are, and most of the info is about diving. I'm not dive certified.

I'm looking for good snorkeling available near the shore, within an hour's drive from Laguna Beach. I would like to see some nice tropical fish, and how about La Jolla Cove? Google Maps shows it to be just over an hour south, and people can snorkel with sea lions there? That would be awesome. I want to avoid sharks, how much risk is there in SoCal? We have a couple attacks here every once in a while, usually bull sharks. Seeing any shark 5ft or longer is enough to get me out of the water.

Are there any boats that take people snorkeling, and would that provide a better experience than staying near the shore? Maybe to snorkel with dolphins or whales?

As you can see, I'm a total noob when it comes to California. But I thank you in advance for any advice.


About my experiences:
We have a near-perfect spot for diving and snorkeling in South Florida, Phil Foster Park under Blue Heron Bridge, city of Riviera Beach. It's in the intracoastal, which protects the area from waves. About 15-20ft at the deepest, and a huge variety of tropical fish and wildlife (angelfish, cowfish, octopi, rays, eels, etc). I say near-perfect because visibility is typically only ideal during high slack tide, and the incoming/outgoing currents can be overwhelming at times. Sometimes I'll try visiting a different beach to snorkel, and I end up regretting the time I've wasted there due to the waves creating a rough and low-vis situation.

I'll be bringing my cheapo $168 Pentax underwater camera. Here's some of our variety at the bridge:
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Laguna Beach has several coves that offer nice snorkeling. You won't see any tropical fish in California, as our water is in the low 50s, and I haven't seen a shark here in more than twenty years. If the water is too dirty, you can take the Catalina Express from Dana Point, Long Beach or San Pedro and snorkel at the Casino Underwater Park in Avalon. Sorry, no whales nor dolphins either.

Scuba Shore Diving Site Listing for: California South, USA West
 
Low 50s?! Holy cow. It appears I put the cart before the horse. I woulda shown up on the beach with a snorkel/mask in one hand, and a pair of fins in the other, only to freeze to death! The coldest I've been in was ~68 degrees in the winter (55 deg. air temp), and I find myself the only snorkeler among many suitted up divers.

Thanks for the info!
 
You would become chilled-- but in May and early June there will be a few others in the water sans wet suit.

You would also be diving in a historic area, Laguna Beach and Orange County.

A few little known facts and a article about diving "Then and Now...."

Orange County was the fountain head of recreational diving in California, the US and for the world.

It had the most manufactures -- US Divers, Voit, Sea Tec, Inflatable systems, JBL, Mares, Spearfisherman, Mark V, Newport divers, Sea Quest, Del Mar, Sea Suits, Water Wear, Kettenhofen Wet suits, Sampson, Sea Pro, Riffe International, Alexander Spearguns, and many more lessor known and now forgotten manufactures

Divers cove/Pick nic cove was selected as the location for the world's first Competitive Spear fishing meet in 1950 and every year to the early 1960s.

Divers Cove was not named as a result of recreational diving activity

Two world record fish were speared off Orange county's coast; the BSB & WSB.

It's waters did contained a variety of shell fish; Mussels, Oysters, Pismo Clams, Scallops, & Lobsters

It has a train and several airplanes, an ocean going barge and several WW 11 landing craft sunk off it's coast.

It has an underwater canyon

It had the second recreational diving ordnance in California.

It had one of the first California game reserves at Heisler park, named after Glen Vedder, the architect and driving force behind the Laguna beach diving ordinance.

It has a number of piers that are dive able.

PADI's first office was in Orange County.

In the genesis of instruction Orange County had more LA County Certified Underwater Instructors than LA County.

It had one of the first dive shops in California; Lyle Hoskins and sons

Three OC residents were honored as "Fathers of Spearfishing" at the 2000 millennium Free diving party
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And a story which I published about 15 years ago about Divers Cove and the changes that time has wrought

YOU CAN'T GO HOME AGAIN…”
By
Dr. Samuel Miller

Several summers ago I visited with some relatives and old friends to reconnect with my roots down in southern California, in “smogsville,” as the smog shrouded area of Los Angeles and Orange County is known by most Californians who reside in other areas of the state.

This visit certainly verified the message in the Thomas Wolfe book “You can't go home again” which I found so difficult to comprehend as a young college student. Yes, Thomas Wolfe was correct! Indeed - You can't go home again.

I spent a very early Saturday morning at Diver’s Cove in Laguna Beach, the fountainhead of American sport diving. It has been a popular diving location since recreational diving began along the California coast in the early 1930s. “The cove” as local divers refer to it, was catapulted from obscurity into international diving fame when it was chosen as the location for the world’s first competitive spear fishing meet in June 1950. The Compton, California “Dolphins Spear Fishing club”, won the meet with a three man team consisting of Ken Kummerfeild, Pat O’Malley and Paul Hoss (of the Bottom Scratcher/Hoss gun fame)

The cove was immortalized for divers through out the world on the cover of the December 1951, issue of Skin Diver Magazine Volume 1, number 1 with a picture of Dr. Nelson "Matty" Mathenson of the Long Beach Nepunes proudly displaying a presentable White Sea Bass he had just speared at the at "the Cove."

Surprisingly Diver's Cove did not receive it's name from recreational diving but from the local youth's habit of diving into the shallow blow hole from the rocks below where the apartments now stand. The apartments were constructed in 1960 which physically separated the cove and Fishermen cove to the north. Prior to the construction and into the 1970s Fisherman's cove was the docking and storage cove for a number of small local recreational sport fishing boats

Lots of other changes have occurred in and around Divers Cove with the passage of sixty years.

In the 1950s the rolling hills surrounding Diver’s Cove were devoid of housing and covered with dry chaparral, which emitted the classic California golden glow always associated with the “Golden state.” Now when viewed from the cove the hills appear almost surrealistic emerald green, blanketed by modern multi- million dollar homes on well-manicured lawns interconnected labyrinth of roads.

It is no longer possible to drive up to the edge of the cliff at Diver’s Cove and park haphazardly. Parking places are now regulated. They are neatly identified with white stripes on the concrete and crowned with a row of coin eating parking meters; silent sentinels waiting for the next quarter for fifteen minutes of violation free parking.

Also absent is the steel cable that provided beach goers and divers to access to the beach. It was a much-appreciated gift from some unknown beach lover who spent their time; money and effort to securely bury one end of the cable in cement and dangle the rest of the cable over the cliff to create a Tarzan style hand over hand beach access. Now modern stairs complete with handrails and a drinking fountain welcomes the divers to the beach

The beach scene I remember so well from my youth is now only a distant memory, but they are memories of gold as were the hills surrounding the cove.

In the genesis of recreational diving the beach was populated with young athletic sun tanned male youths clad in the diving costume of the era, baggy long underwear, tucked in to equally baggy swim trunks, round diving masks on their faces, short green fins on their feet and the weapon of choice a “Jab Stick” (a pole spear powered by the trust of the arm) unceremoniously stuck in the ground.

Like ancient tribes returning from a successful hunt they stood in small groups, wrapped in surplus WWII olive drab army or navy blue blankets, shivering and blue lipped from the cold of the water and the chill in the air. Roaring bonfires fed by WWII surplus tires added much needed warmth as it belched fourth thick heavy black smoke into the clean crisp smog free Orange County air.

Now Divers Cove has become a popular diving destination for dive training classes. It is populated every Saturday and Sunday morning by young fuzzy faced certified diving instructors who have arrived before 7:00 to conduct the final ocean check out dive for their classes of aspiring divers. Under the ever-watchful eye of their SCUBA instructor, young and old, male and female don the costume of modern diving. Bright colored wet suits have replaced the long underwear for thermal protection; clear form fitting twin lens masks of clear silicone replaced the black round rubber masks; multi hued long lightweight split plastic fins now adorn their feet replacing the short green Churchill fins. Not a spear fishing weapon is insight, since this area has been a game reserve for over a generation.

Yes, there have been a lot of changes in the last sixty plus years. Tomas Wolfe’s message has been verified. You can't go home again, but you can relive fond memories from the distant past and dream and hope for the future of recreational diving.

Only the sea, the eternal sea, has relentlessly remained the same.............


sdm
 
CA diving is awesome but quite different than the warm water in FL.

La Jolla is a great place to snorkel. You will need a wetsuit, a 5mm or 7mm. A 7/5mm is likely the best choice. You can rent but I would pick one up in FL or CA if you plan on spending much time in the water there. Look for a group trip or a guide, do not snorkel alone. There are plenty of people in the water which was 68F when I was last there. But Catalina was 59F, so the water is cold with 68F being about as warm as I have experienced.

There are lots of other shore dives but I am only familiar with La Jolla, boat diving, and Catalina Island which is also a great option. It will cost you $100+/- round trip to take the express over, but you should make a point of spending time on Catalina like a few days if possible.

On Catalina the park at Casino Point is a great spot to dive/snorkel with vis averaging maybe 30', and I have had 60'+. You can also do a dive trip over from the main land. Not sure what they charge for snorkelers but $125 for a three tank dive trip on 'The Great Escape'. You can even sleep on the boat the night before the dive to avoid an early departure and sleep in assuming you sleep well on a boat. In CA you will see kelp, sea lions, kelp fish, horn sharks, Garibaldi, Bass, Opal Eye, Sea Urchin, Gorgonian, Rock Scallop, Rock Wrasse, Sargo, Senoritas, Spiny Lobster, Treefish, Anemone, Sea Cucumber, etc.
CA is awesome but the water is not like FL. As a kid I swam in the ocean without a wetsuit. Now I realize I was nuts as the water is Cold!

Have Fun and the locals will give you more advice. Maxbottomtime is Very knowledgeable and is a Great resource, as this has been his backyard for many, many years. Dr. Bill is also on the forum and has vast knowledge especially of Catalina where he lives.

http://www.pacificwilderness.com/Dive Sites/Catalina/Casino Point/Casino Point.htm
 
It has a train and several airplanes:
1st of all great post and article....2nd wheres the train....

And about the snorkeling...Any of the coves from Laguna Main Beack to Little Corona are good for snokeling just wear the proper gear.....Check out Frankos Maps their a great map....
 
I will either look for a wetsuit or rent, they appear to rent for ~$10/day. I thought tropical fish existed off the coast in SoCal because before starting this thread, I was watching some Youtube videos of Laguna-area snorkeling and saw the brightly-colored
garibaldi. Youtube videos also gave me the idea of snorkeling with sea lions, which we certainly do not have here.

The replies and links have provided great info.
 
Laguna Beach has several coves that offer nice snorkeling. You won't see any tropical fish in California, as our water is in the low 50s, and I haven't seen a shark here in more than twenty years. If the water is too dirty, you can take the Catalina Express from Dana Point, Long Beach or San Pedro and snorkel at the Casino Underwater Park in Avalon. Sorry, no whales nor dolphins either.

Scuba Shore Diving Site Listing for: California South, USA West
Come on, be nice. Garibaldis are as colorful as any warm-water damsel. The scythe butterflyfish exists around Catalina, where you can also find horn sharks and maybe even angel sharks without looking too hard. And whales and dolphins are routinely spotted from dive boats, just not underwater where you'd really like to see them. Also, by June, the water might warm up to the high 50s!
 
I know of the surf spot by my apartment called trolley cars or box cars and always wanted to dive it....I never heard of any train cars in Newport...Can you give location. Is it diveable . have you dove it. Im sorry about all the questions but im always very inqisitive...
 

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