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Who thinks this Shark was Killed (or should have been shot) ?

Discussion in 'Shark Forum!' started by dumpsterDiver, May 11, 2014.

  1. dumpsterDiver

    dumpsterDiver Banned

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
  2. drbill

    drbill The Lorax for the Kelp Forest Scuba Legend

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: Santa Catalina Island, CA
    Not sure how close the shark was getting to the diver, but the diver seemed to go after the shark rather than the shark making aggressive passes at the diver. I've had a large (14') great white pass close by without incident.
  3. kelemvor

    kelemvor Big Fleshy Monster ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Largo, FL USA
    I have a better question. Who thinks this shark has been trained to associate humans with food?
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  4. MaxBottomtime

    MaxBottomtime Divemaster

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: Torrance, CA
    After the shark passed over at the beginning of the video the diver followed it to the next reef. You could see the shark was startled by the diver's bubbles a couple of times. Perhaps the diver had fish on a stringer. If not, he should have stopped following the shark. It never appeared to be threatening, so it definitely would have been callous to shoot it.
    Tigerman, Hatul and drbill like this.
  5. manni-yunk

    manni-yunk Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Quakertown,PA and Cape May, NJ
    I guess I see the video COMPLETELY differently than the prior posters. I don't believe the diver "followed" it for the sake of following it??? I didn't see a diver "go after" a shark????

    I see a shark attempting to move out of vis then circle behind the diver several times and a diver moving with the shark to keep it within vis. That shark was trying to get in closer. Im not claiming it was trying to attack or anything, but without question it was circling behind the diver every time it moved out of clear view. The diver seems to anticipate and move around and forward towards the shark to maintain vis. I think the shark was more startled by the fact that the diver was WAITING for it since the shark expected to be coming in from behind.

    Im not saying that they shark should be dead - just that the diver seemed to be very aware and know how to protect him/herself.
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  6. Pavao

    Pavao Manta Ray

    Screw the shark, there's a cobia there!!!
  7. scubaholt

    scubaholt Solo Diver

    There goes dD stirring it up again!

    The spearo did exactly the right thing to avoid being lunch.

    The shark swam off to find an easier snack.

    Crazy video this far south.
  8. drrich2

    drrich2 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Southwestern Kentucky
    It seems to me the shark obviously came around to investigate the diver a number of times, entering into close quarters. It's not credible that he was chasing it around, since the shark can easily move much faster than a diver, and I think even a casually swimming GWS would be hard to keep pace with if heading off in a straight line.

    It's been said that a number of shark attacks are thought to be 'test bites' where the shark bit a human to see whether he or she was food, decided not and swam off. Problem is, getting 'taste tested' by a large great white can leave you hemorrhaging to death, though being uneaten must surely be a comfort (if you're in a frame of mind to care by that time).

    While the chosen music score affects the viewing experience, if that were me, I'd be thinking along the lines of 'If this thing kills me, I hope somebody finds the camera so people can figure out what happened.'

    I think shooting the shark in that circumstance was the right thing to do.

  9. djtimmy77

    djtimmy77 Loggerhead Turtle

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: RPB, FL
    Between seeing on the video what appears to be the diver unhooking the line from the shaft and discussion on other forums from people who supposedly talked to the diver afterwards implying what happened next....one could conclude that there is a GW swimming around with a spear shaft in it right now. Whether that would be the right thing to do in this circumstance, I don't know...all I know is I hope that never happens to me, or I would have a wetsuit cleaning to perform (not to mention I wouldn't have anything to poke the shark away with as I don't spearfish)
    Last edited: May 12, 2014
  10. HalcyonDaze

    HalcyonDaze Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Miami
    I doubt shooting would have been a good idea - say it doesn't kill or deter the shark. Splendid! Now you have a hacked-off great white and no pointy stick to keep it at bay. Not to mention that if there's a line on the shaft you'll have to either ditch the gun or get dragged behind said hacked-off great white. This guy did the right thing, and according to his comments she did leave after that last poke. I don't think he was pursuing the shark; at one point he turns away from where she dropped out of sight and heads towards that low ledge where he'd at least have some cover on one side. He doesn't move very far during the course of the video and after he reaches that ledge he stays put.

    Overall? I'd say based on how it's described the first appearance was probably an investigatory "bump;" possibly including mouthing the tank. She came up from behind and actually struck his tank, and when she enters the camera's view she's still moving at a good clip. After that she was definitely curious, continuing to come back and eyeball the diver. Slow, deliberate movements except when she gets jabbed. If she actually wanted to attack him, that first hit would probably have been a lot more violent and it wouldn't have been that hard to drop out of sight and ambush him again. According to the YouTube comments by the diver there was about an eight-minute gap where he lost sight of her after that first pass. Could she have commenced with an investigatory bite if he hadn't jabbed at her? Possible. Some of those approaches were outside even my fairly generous comfort level with big sharks. Bet he had to clean out his wetsuit afterwards.

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