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All of which points out that the minimum acceptable training level is Rescue.
I disagree - I trained to surface with an unconscious diver in my basic-OW with ACUC. Do do NAUI-trained divers. But not PADI...
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All of which points out that the minimum acceptable training level is Rescue.
That is correct ... with NAUI you do not need AOW in order to take Rescue. Furthermore, NAUI mandates that some level of rescue skills must be taught at every level. I think that's a good philosophy.All of which points out that the minimum acceptable training level is Rescue. For PADI this would imply that AOW was also taken. I believe NAUI will allow an OW diver to take Rescue.
I disagree - I trained to surface with an unconscious diver in my basic-OW with ACUC. Do do NAUI-trained divers. But not PADI...
SEI also mandates surfacing an unconscious diver. And like Bob I include rescue skills in all my classes.
Somewhere there must be somebody saying a certain number of new divers dying is ok.
I am having trouble understanding what you are referring to. SEI does teach those skills as does NAUI, CMAS, ACUC, IANTD, and BSAC. It is the ones who feel that rescue skills are not necessary at the OW level or the students told that they should have these but they need to come back and spend more money before they get them is the issue I have.
So your agency is marketing a useless course?Open Water Plus Diver
SEI Diving's Open Water Diver course is designed to give certified scuba divers two additional open water dives. This guided experience is important for new divers who want more training before going out and diving without supervision.
And when SEI says that AOW is highly recommended for all newly certified Open Water divers, to help them gain experience and comfort in the underwater world. they really don't need the course for that reason?Advanced Open Water Diver
The SEI Advanced Open Water Diver course is for divers who want to expand their knowledge and diving experience to include a variety of diving environments. The course provides an introduction to specialty diving, and features five open water dives, including a night dive. This course is highly recommended for all newly certified Open Water divers, to help them gain experience and comfort in the underwater world.
No, it's not.I have expectations of zero accidents among new divers barring medical issues or outside forces (being run over by boat, shark attack, sea snake bite, being kicked or mugged for air by a poorly trained diver, etc) and make an effort to see that my students have the knowledge to achieve that as long as they stay within their training, knowledge, and experience levels. Is that realistic?