Why Are Wing Comfort Harnesses Frowned Upon?

[boulderjohn]

In all fairness, Jablonski's Baker's Dozen article regarding computers is nearly 15 years old by now.

...and still being followed by the faithful, some of whom I know and have dived with in the last month.

GUE has ditched the phrase DIR, so it is not making any new pronouncements in that regard. UTD still uses the term. Have they made any changes, or are computers still as forbidden now as when I trained with them?

 

[drbill]

Personally I've never been a fan of backplates for single tank diving. I've used an old ScubaPro X-Tek harness (the one based on the original Transpac) for about 15 years now and feel it is a much more stable way of mounting a single tank to my back

 

[PfcAJ]

...and still being followed by the faithful, some of whom I know and have dived with in the last month.

GUE has ditched the phrase DIR, so it is not making any new pronouncements in that regard. UTD still uses the term. Have they made any changes, or are computers still as forbidden now as when I trained with them?

Last I checked GUE was still teaching tables but recognizes the utility of proper, modern computers with unadulterated algorithms. None of that proprietary nonsense.

Fwiw, I've been diving a shearwater unit for a few months now, and a lot of friends either have SeaBear or Shearwater computers. I think its neat.

Imo having a computer doesn't alleviate you of needing to know the tables and planning/diving accordingly, but the computer can be nice for tweaks. We still pull out the tables and go over the dive profile, and tables still come with us on the dive and are referenced.

 

[decompression]

John, get ready for this....
Freedom Bottom Timer · UTD Scuba Diving

Just a BT but only an upgrade away.......

 

[cool_hardware52]

Broken buckles can be easily fixed in the field with a pair of appropriately-sized zip-ties. Of course, you'll want that buckle replaced as soon as is practical, but it should not prevent you from doing the next dive ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Some yes, some less so, but the zip tie approach usually leaves the buckle unable to open, and if the diver is dependent on opening the buckle to get out of the BC it's often not a very attractive option.

With a well equipped save a dive kit and a motivated diver much is possible, but the fact remains that there is little to fail on a hogarthian harness.

Tobin

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

OK, this is a bit off topic, but let's talk about it a bit, because even I as a moderator am not fully understanding about this topic.

The title under your name depends upon several things. Bob is a supporter, and that earns him the right to have whatever he darn well pleases, including identifying as a dyslexic Frank Zappa groupie. If you join a group, the name of the group is identified, so a person who joins the DIR Practitioner group will have that identification. If you join more than one group, the one that will show is the one that is the highest ranking in a somewhat arbitrary list of rankings. If you do none of the above, you will be identified as some sort of seal life, in another arbitrary ascending order based on the number of posts.

I've got all that; here is what I don't understand. Notice that I am listed as Scuba Media and Publications, the highest ranking of the groups. I never joined that group, and I have no reason to join it. If I were to leave the group, then I supposedly will be named by my next highest ranking group. I would indeed leave the group, if I had the option to do so. Since it does not appear in the group list, I can't un-join it, but then, since it does not appear in the group list, I couldn't have joined it in the first place, could I?

... you were probably "voluntold" as a staff member ... don't you guys become honorary members of all the groups?

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Some yes, some less so, but the zip tie approach usually leaves the buckle unable to open, and if the diver is dependent on opening the buckle to get out of the BC it's often not a very attractive option.

With a well equipped save a dive kit and a motivated diver much is possible, but the fact remains that there is little to fail on a hogarthian harness.

Tobin

True dat ... and the reason why I choose to dive them. I just replaced my harness with a new one ... cost me $15 for 12 feet of webbing, and took about 20 minutes to thread the harness and make the appropriate adjustments.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[boulderjohn]

... you were probably "voluntold" as a staff member ... don't you guys become honorary members of all the groups?

Actually, no one knows why I am in that group--I just haven't cared enough to do anything about it.

We are not honorary members of groups. We can go into any group if we wish because of moderating powers, but that is really just so we can take care of any problems that arise there. I can get into the NAUI instructors forum, for example, but I don't because it would violate the spirit of having a closed group. If someone were to report a problem there, I would take care of it, but that hasn't happened yet.

 

[dmaziuk]

We are not honorary members of groups. We can go into any group if we wish because of moderating powers, but that is really just so we can take care of any problems that arise there.

Does the computer know? I.e. in systems terms group membership and access permissions are usually closely related. Perhaps nobody told the programmer to make sure they use former when making up the title -- so they're pulling the "best" group name from what you can access instead.

Anyway, back to the backplates and single tanks: I wonder how many people would dive with these things: Seatec-Back Plate if our LDSes and resort shops sold them.

 

[boat sju]