Leadking
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I got into this debate years ago with a Ranger friend at Isle Royale. When does it go from trash to treasure?
Never got a straight answer
Never got a straight answer
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ageddiver:Dude, let me get this straight: the THC has no money to pay divers for any information, they have no time/people to do any wreck research, and they also have no money to properly excavate any wrecks. But the state has plenty of money to pay state law enforcement to patrol wreck sites and investigate curious divers, and to pay lawyers and courts to prosecute divers who take anything off of any old crapbox that ever sunk. Does that about sum it up? You must work for the state.
ageddiver:Of course the big sticking point is around the definition of historical. But you're simply taking the head-in-the-sand approach by saying "who's to decide, so we treat them all as historical". And you can stick with that line and not bend and nothing will ever change. As I said before - righteous and clueless.
ageddiver:And your arguments are weak - 2700 wrecks? How many were located last year? 5? That's $1000. And one guy can't separate the wheat from the chaff? BTW, what did the state do with all those muskets? Preserve them and display in a museum, or stick them in a dirty basement? My guess is the latter, and the other writer was right. You talk about about a partnership, but you tear up any proposals you hear and offer nothing remotely workable.
LVX:You just simply stated it was wrong and that we need to setup a system but you have yet to offer a solution.
LVX:I am simply asking you how you decide what is historical and you totally ignored it and still have not given a response about it. Let me know. How do you determine what is historical. You are good are arguing but not at offering solutions.
LVX:And, how does one separate the wheat from the chaff. I must have missed that class.
LVX:Are you saying the State Marine Archaeologist should just believe what the divers are saying and give them out the money before every looking at the wreck site. So, if you go out and find a shrimpboat and say it is a historical wreck the archaeologist is just supposed to believe you, pay you and then start his/ her research only to find it is a shrimp boat.
phoneman:I live in the N. E. part of Fl. where you could say there is alot of historic sites to see but none that I know of in the water. However you can be sure that if pass thru one of the local inlets and the wildlife officers thinks you my have taken something from the bottom your in for a rough time.You could float a barge load of junk from the bottom of the sea thru that same inlet tell them you the friends of the spotted green sea owl or some such nonsense and you can go on your way. Now take the most worthless piece of junk from that barge put it on your boat with dive gear visable when you pass thru the inlet and you are in for a day at court. Now for grins and giggles try just riding around the inlet with your dive gear and a metal detector displayed where all can see. I know of no one who is brave enough to try this but I could guess what would happen. Why?
P.S. Yes spotted green sea owl tastes alot like chicken