Calculating air consumption SAC / SCR / RMV

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It is a good idea to know you SAC under varying conditions so that you can correctly figure your gas needs for the dive you are planning....

For example Shane and I figure .6 for swimming dives and .4 for scooter dives....

The point isn't competition for the *best* number.... at least it shouldn't be...

SAC is for gas management.
 
I appear to have been taken the wrong way.

I have no idea if .9 is high or low in old money (and do not know how to make the conversion). I would also say there is no high or low there is just what is.

As you say the important thing is to know what it is in the conditions you are faced with and plan accordingly.

On the 30th I know I will be somewhere round 18-20 (so I'll plan on 20) and keep track so hopefully by the 9th May I'll be down nearer 13 or 14.

Me, planning a trip - surely not!!

Cheers
Jonathan
 
Probably a stupid question, but how did you guys figure your SAC? The only way I can think of is to breathe from your tank at the surface for a while. (Unless you work backwards, taking the data from a dive and adjusting for depth) I have no idea what my SAC is, but would really like to know. So, how'd you guys do it?
 
sumguy,

Do a search on the boards. use the words respiratory minute volume. On the section for the posters name type in Walter. Hes has some excellent answers to your question.
 
Jonathan

here's the conversion factor:

cubic feet to liters x28.32
liters to cu feet x.03531

A SAC of .9 =25.5 liters per minute


Same calculations might be used to convert tank capacities


Sue
 
My average SAC rates are:

16/17 lt (.6 cu) in portuguese cold waters and

12/13 lt (.4 cu) in tropical dives
 
Thanks Sue - I'll write that down somewhere and no doubt lose it....

In metric SAC = (cylinder size in l * air used in bar) / (time in mins * depth in bar)

swim a long at your chosen depth for a chosen time - make it significant and make some notes. Or buy and air integrated computer - I personally use both methods.

Something more for your log book......

Jonathan
 
sumguy,

Air consumption is a personal aspect of diving. In other words, it varies from diver to diver. Even more, it varies for the same diver from dive to dive. Factors which will affect your air consumption rate are: work load, physical fitness, recent illnesses, water temperature, depth and comfort level. A useful method of calculating your personal air consumption rate involves finding your Respiratory Minute Volume (RMV). This is more useful than other methods because you can use it with any size tank. To find your RMV, descend to a comfortable depth. Relax, note your tank's pressure and sit quietly for 10 minutes. Again note your tank's pressure. Next, repeat the process while swimming normally for 10 minutes. At this point you know how many PSI/10 minutes you use at a specific depth for a specific tank both swimming and at rest. This is easily converted to cubic feet. Divide the total volume of the tank by the working pressure of the tank. This results in a tank factor expressed as cu ft/1 PSI for this particular tank. Multiply the tank factor by the PSI used then divide by 10 for each of the figures, PSI used resting and PSI used swimming. This is your RMV for that depth. Now convert it to a surface figure. Take your RMV at depth and divide by the ATMA of your depth. (D+33)/33=ATMA. RMV at depth/ATMA = RMV. Do this for both resting and swimming. You now have two baseline figures. To figure your air consumption at any depth, merely take your surface RMV and multiply by the ATMA of the depth you are planning.

Pounds per square inch (PSI)
Depth (D)
Atmosphere absolute (ATMA) ATMA = (D+33)/33
Tank factor is different for each type of tank (F)
Total tank volume (V)
Working pressure of the tank (W)
PSI used (P)
Respiratory minute volume (RMV)

V/W=F
(F*P)/10 = RMV at depth
RMV at depth/ATMA = RMV
 
My SAC rates vary from around .4 in warm water and up to around .6 in cold water.

My lowest to date is .38
 
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