Dive Rite Express and their customer service

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You're right... abuse or not it would have benefited them more in the long run to have just replaced it.

I had a REC wing that developed a leak. I contacted DR directly and they told me it would cost $75 to repair it. So I sent it in. They contacted me the day they received it and said that since it was an old SONOFORM wing they couldn't repair it. So they said that they would replace the wing for $100.00 total. I don't think that was a bad deal. The two times that I've had to deal with DR directly I've always been satisfied.
 
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Please note that I have changed the title of this thread in order to avoid any confusion of the business entity being discussed in this thread.

Thank You.


The Kraken
 
Seems like they didn't KNOW about it until it was posted here, and then there was resolution with 12hrs (effectively less when you consider the original post was 9:30 at night and the response came at 9:30 the next morning.)

Not sure how much more one might expect from a manufacturer.


Actually what I was trying to say was it's not 100% clear if the original poster sent that email to Dive Rite (manufacturer) that he didn't get a response from?

if so... things play out differently.

I still don't think that email is completely 100% effective for initial communication though as spam filters and typos in email addresses sometimes cause final delivery failures.

but they did report back that it was 'abuse'. so they made an initial summary report on the part they got back and reported back to Dive Rite Express.

In my opinion, it appears that Dive Rite Express dropped the ball here, but it also could have perhaps been handled a little better by Dive Rite also.

regardless, it's behind us now... maybe they can both use this as 'lessons learned' for future issues.
 
FYI, Fill Express = Dive Rite Express. See Fill Express -- Nitrox & Technical Diving Specialist Serving Greater Fort Lauderdale and click on Retail.

My .02 psi is simple; the coin has two sides, and no one is talking about what is "DRX['s]" side, so since this is a public thread, and Fill Express services many of SB's Florida Conch Divers, I see no reason to forward this thread to Mark (Fill Express & Dive Rite Express' owner) and allow him an opportunity to respond, which I will do upon finishing this post.

With perhaps 2 or 3 exceptions (because I can't tell from your profiles) all of you are from somewhere else except South Florida, and the plausibility you have dealt with Mark, Charlie, Ricky and the rest of the gang at F.E., is, quite likely, ZERO. These guys know what they're talking about, have one of the most respected LDS' in South Florida, and believe me, customer service is their priority. And I don't believe it's just for us locals, because I've been at their shop many times when people from out-of-town come in and get the same service we locals get.

Thanks!

Rick
 
It's a tough call to respond to these types of threads, for the most part our customers do an excellent job of explaining our position on our behalf and we tend to remain silent. But in this case, I'll provide a bit of the point of view of Fill Express.

Fill Express (doing business on the Internet as Dive Rite Express, Dive Gear Express, or Rebreather Express) can often handle repairs and even warranty claims in-house... and we do more often than not. However, for some types of repairs (lights, aircells, computers) we are unable to service in-house and we must send it to the manufacturer.

In a case where Dive Rite will be doing the repair, it will always be quicker and some times cheaper to deal directly with Dive Rite the manufacturer. That's because it saves a lot of time. When you involve Fill Express in the repair we can't add much to the transaction... here's why: The customer calls us, we issue a repair ticket, they ship it to us, we receive it and transfer it to our customer service, then we research and open a repair ticket with Dive Rite and ship it to them, sometimes Dive Rite service has a question so they contact us, we contact the customer, then contact Dive Rite with the answer, they repair the item, then ship the item back to us, we recieve the repaired item and cross their repair ticket with ours and then we ship the item back to the customer. As you can see, there are plenty of opportunities for delays and miscommunications.

Most dive shops prefer to "own the customer" and filter all communications through the LDS. This often improves the customer experience where the manufacturer is not very good at handling customer service directly and many manufacturers actually have a policy of not dealing directly with the customer. However, in our experience Dive Rite does an excellent job of customer service and so for the reasons mentioned previously we sometimes recommend the customer communicate directly with Dive Rite. Some customers prefer to deal with us rather than the manufacturer and we are always happy to accomodate their preference, particularly where there is no time pressure. We are not trying to push the customer off on Dive Rite, but there are good reasons why we sometimes recommend the customer deal with them directly.

In some cases, the policies of Dive Rite and Fill Express regarding customer service differ. To be frank about it, we have observed manufacturers, including Dive Rite, are sometimes willing to be much more liberal in warranty claim issues when they are dealing with the consumer directly than when they are dealing with the shop. That's what happened here, once Dive Rite became aware of the consumer directly, the issue was quickly resolved in favor of the consumer... where as we (as the local dive shop) were told something rather different.

So what works best? If you have a warranty claim or repair issue with a product you purchased from Fill Express (aka Dive Rite Express), contact us first. We may tell you to send it back to us, or send you a replacement immediately, or suggest you contact the manufacturer directly. If we suggest you contact the manufacturer directly, then you will likely get the best results by following our advice. However, it you prefer to deal with us exclusively, we are happy to do our best on your behalf with the manufacturer.

-- Mark
 
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My .02 psi is simple; the coin has two sides, and no one is talking about what is "DRX['s]" side, so since this is a public thread, and Fill Express services many of SB's Florida Conch Divers, I see no reason to forward this thread to Mark (Fill Express & Dive Rite Express' owner) and allow him an opportunity to respond, which I will do upon finishing this post.
Thanks, Rick. I've always known Mark to be a standup guy. The OP's experience doesn't match mine at all.

Really, I think email is vastly overrated, its not a perfect communication tool. Spam filters aren't perfect and IMO good emails are sometimes flagged as spam. Anytime I don't get a response to an email, text message, etc. I always follow up with a phone call.
 
super excited to see the response that Dive Rite gave to the OP. I'm about ready to invest in some gear from them and i was excited to witness Dive Rite customer service handle an issue with tact and benefit of doubt.
 
super excited to see the response that Dive Rite gave to the OP. I'm about ready to invest in some gear from them and i was excited to witness Dive Rite customer service handle an issue with tact and benefit of doubt.
I just purchased some DR equipment from DRX. Personally fitted in store for a Transpac by Charles. Found the customer service to be great and hope the DR gear lasts and if I need any repairs I expect the customer service from DR to be as great.
 
i guess this proves once again if you wanna get action, post a thread

That's not the case with DR...I own alot of their gear and have not had any probs. I did have problems finding parts for a SI Tech dry ring DR use to merchandise. SI Tech could not (or would not ) help me with a $2 part but Kathleen found the part for an item DR does not even sell anymore and sent it to me for no charge. DR is the best in my book.

Steve
 
this is how most customer issues go. if you can just contact the right person who thinks about the long term affects of the business, you can usually get what you want if it is within reason. so often dealers and whoever don't know what the mfg will say or do in any case. sounds like there was no background info given to the mfg in this case? that is bad practice and the dealer probably should have acted as an advocate for the cust. in this case. sounds like the dealer figured it's abuse so automatically = not under warranty. sounds like diverite should have a meeting about what types of exceptions they are willing to make.
 

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