Discussion in 'Basic Scuba Discussions' started by lozzin, Sep 8, 2005.
about how much an hour does a divemaster or a similar position make?
somewhere around $2.37 an hour.....jk
I have no idea but I bet it is just enough to get by. I think most of them do it for the enjoyment.
Not sure about working as a divemaster on a boat. But my son is looking into being a commercial diver/welder. This is what the American Welding Society says....
An average salary vs. grade index would be interesting to look at if there were one, but the truth of the matter is that salaries for welder-divers cover a wide range. We know some welder-divers earn $15,000 per year while others earn in excess of $100,000. Because the majority of welder-divers are paid on a project-by-project basis, salaries are subject to the same variables as work availability. In addition, other factors such as depth, dive method and diving environment affect pay rates. The company with whom you gain employment should be able to tell you the salary range you can expect to earn.
Exactly how dangerous is underwater welding?
The fact that most DiveMasters who work on dive boats "survive" on customer TIPS should indicate how low they are paid. Maybe the ones who are on liveaboards do a little better, but I assume that's mostly because their room and board is included and that allows them to save more since they aren't spending it on rent, car payment, etc.
I was hoping may son would be a sky diving instructor, but he chose the more dangerous profession of underwater welder !
Check out this article av8r: http://www.underwater.com/archives/arch/026.01.shtml
After he's done it for a while you may wish he had decided to become a crash test dummy instead.
As for your income as DM: outside of the big tourist zones your income is usually measured in losses, not profits.
I think some places pay you with water and ramen noodles..
I'm not exactly sure what an INSTUCTOR makes, but at our LDS here are some numbers.
So out of 27 *professionals* at this LDS
8 work FT (or own) the LDS on TOP of teaching. So not ONE is JUST Instructing as they all have other FT responsibilities.
19 Have FT jobs outside of the diving industry.
To sum it up, not ONE of the 27 instructors at this LDS actually make a FT living through just instruction, however 8 are FT in the Diving Industry.
To be fair, we are land Locked.
Related question, then...a DM working through an LDS assisting courses and teaching refreshers on the side, working a non-industry full time job: how often would one need to teach in order to break even financially with professional insurance premiums and other related costs? Then same question, except substitute "instructor" for "dm".
Edit: Got here from the hot topics menu, and just noticed this is in "Women's Views". Any particular reason?
Depends on where you are and who you work for.
For example, if you work on a posh resort or liveaboard - you can make reasonable tips.
But there are those places where dive pros are dime a dozen and DMs will find it difficult to find even menial work. I noticed this in Northern Australia where instructors clean toilets and scrub floors. DMs work for the privilege of free dives - yep, a bad deal but there's enough takers to keep the industry going.
My last place of work (Thailand), the going rate for DMs were about $15.00 Cdn per day.
Don't ring up your local dive shop and ask them: they'll just try to sell you the IDC.
Fairly dangerous, think about it, your doing underwater construction in usually little to no visability. You usually have to make the dive regardless of weather conditions because a ship sinking or not may depend on it. It's hard work and not as glamorous as it sounds.
The main dangers are physical health, you can work long hours with lots of decompression. This makes you old really fast. In the old days they used to just bend you and throw you into a decompression chamber. I'm sure nowdays it's a lot safer than it was 20 years ago when I was thinking about doing it, but it's still a hard physically demanding job.
At that time they paid $28/hr. and you got paid for a full day as long as you got in water at least up to your waist. In other words, if for some reason the dive got canceled early on you still got paid for the full day. Lots of overtime and double time and half for holiday work. Pretty good gig, but the physical toll on your body may or may not be worth it.
I was going to become a Navy hard hat diver and the training included 2 1/2 years of welding school and 2 years of hard hat training. I went to Pearl Harbor to take the test and got to dive the MKXII hard hat system. I decided that I didn't want to make a career out of the Navy, so I didn't follow through with it.
There are several hard hat schools througout the country, I don't think their programs are as long as the Navy's but they also may not be as involved either.
Divemasters and instructors for the most part do it for love of the sport. Personally,I have made very good tips doing some freelance work while on vacation. I do not get paid from the LDS owner that I personally work with. He is the only full time owner/instructor in the city. There are some good perks though.
He personally does commercial work,and a group of use often assist. He gets paid VERY Well ! Most is work is on intake systems for dams farm yards and golf courses.. Vehicle recovery also(under ice) pays extreamly well.
Most people perceive welding as the primary commercial task but that is far from the truth. Most is actually nuts and bolts work as well as salvage operations.
I forgot to mention that a friend of mine in Coz pays his DM's and boat captains very well compaired to the average wage earner there plus tips.
Maybe thats because there are 27 instructors. We have the same issue in our shop with about 9 instructors.
My older brother is a u/w welder for the navy. He loves his job..even though he doesn't do it that much u/w anymore since he's getting too old he say's. but, he still does it and he likes it alot. ya, it can be dangerous. and i don't know how much he makes either.
I ran into a guy in his mid 30's who was getting out of it. He told me many of the people he started with were dead from accidents on the job.
Colorado (being a non ocean state) has a shop large enough to
employ 27 instructors/dive-professionals? wow....
If I had to guess, would this be A-1 scuba?
I too do the DM work because I enjoy it. It also allows me to go back to the basics of the skills rather than just go diving. So, in a way working with an instructor on a course is a skills refresher.
My LDS does offer some perks. They offer equivalent credit at the store for the amount it costs for the insurance and a much better price on equipment. Aslo, as a DM for a course I don't have to pay for the charter.
I wish I could get my insurance paid for.....
If you are a real DM with a number you are entitled to "Key Man Pricing" most if not all manufactures offer this and is NOT a store perk !! You have earned this.
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