One dead, one injured off of Panama City, Florida

Discussion in 'Accidents and Incidents' started by DandyDon, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. DandyDon

    DandyDon ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Diver drowns 6 miles offshore | miles, offshore, panama - The News Herald
    And this news story includes an odd statement: 1 Diver is Dead Another is Hospitalized from Off Shore Mishap
     
  2. jhayes75

    jhayes75 Photographer

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    This is very sad. I read they were from Louisiana.

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  3. Hetland

    Hetland Loggerhead Turtle

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    Maybe a class where they were demonstrating a skill?

    and apparently divers in Panama City are more important than they are in Pensacola. The Coast Guard in Pensacola won't launch a dingey for an unresponsive diver. We're lucky to get a search-assist for a missing diver. If you're bent or unresponsive, you're SOL if you expect help in Pensacola.

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    Another news link w/photos: http://www.wjhg.com/video/?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=7629651

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    UPDATED: One Dead, One Injured In Diving Accident - WMBB News 13 - The Panhandle's News Leader

     
  4. Dive-aholic

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    Last year we were out on the Oriskany when diver died there. The Coast Guard did send out a boat to help with the search.
     
  5. Hetland

    Hetland Loggerhead Turtle

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    ... and at least one search plane that I saw, but that was because he was "missing". They will not send a thing for a bent or unresponsive diver. They certainly didn't for the two previous fatalities that occurred in Pensacola waters, or two additional incidents with bent divers that I'm aware of.

    Realistically, anyone brought up unresponsive is probably SOL anyway, but it irks me to see the CG bust !@# for divers in other areas, and all we get is an ambulance at the dock.
     
  6. moosicman

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    So this was a commercial fishing boat or a dive boat/fishing boat or a dive boat? I'm assuming the first one but I'd like to be certain.
     
  7. CajunDiva

    CajunDiva Loggerhead Turtle

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    [h=3]Update from WMBB Channel 13:


    UPDATED: One Dead, One Injured In Diving Accident[/h]
    Posted: Aug 18, 2012 9:49 PM CDTUpdated: Aug 19, 2012 5:12 PM CDTBy J. Michael Brown - email


    UPDATE
    New details of a scuba diving accident off Panama City Beach are being released. The US Coast Guard has confirmed that the captain of the vessel involved in the incident is under investigation.
    Neither the name of the captain nor any details of that probe have been released. Coast Guard Lieutenant Michael Clausen says the divers were on board a commercial fishing boat, but the Captain told investigators that the off-shore trip was recreational.
    One diver died in the Saturday morning incident, and a second diver is being treated for decompression sickness--commonly known as "the bends."
    The injured diver was initially transported to Bay Medical Center, but a hospital spokesperson says he was later taken to another facility for treatment.
    The names of the divers have not been released.
     
  8. Hetland

    Hetland Loggerhead Turtle

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    I've been told the name of the boat, but there's no way for me to verify the accuracy of the information. IF the name I was given is correct, then this is a charter vessel that runs hook & line trips. It also runs dive trips through a dive shop in Panama City.
     
  9. DandyDon

    DandyDon ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Well, I think investigations are standard for any serious accident or fatality, so I have to wonder about the quality of the news reporting - and other news stories on the net may well simply be echoing the one that originally stated that. I agree with many captains in that a skipper's duty is to provide a safe ride to & from the dive site, as well as assist with exiting & boarding the boat - but I don't think he has any responsibilities for what happens below. Exceptions would include case of the dive op renting gear uses, providing DMs for lead dives, quality of tank air furnished, and the like - but I don't see any obvious implications yet.

    I'd certainly like to know more about what went wrong below leading to the tragedy, not to judge but to possibly learn - if anyone has access to more info.
     
  10. Hetland

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    Don, a Coast Guard investigation might not have anything to do with what happened underwater, in fact, unless the Captain ran them over, I don't think the Coast Guard would have any reason to investigate an underwater accident (though they do anyway for some reason).

    If he was running spearfishing charters to federal waters without the proper permits, or had more than six paying customers on his boat, or had a dead goliath grouper on board, they'd probably be interested. Not saying that's what happened, just that they may be investigating him for something other than the circumstances of the accident.
     
  11. DandyDon

    DandyDon ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I appreciate those possibilities - a little far fetched that they are, but we just have not seen any reports to support suspicions, and given the usual quality of news reporting - I don't see it reasonable to jump to any conclusions with regard to the captain at this time.
     
  12. dadediver

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    Station Pensicola is a small boat station. With only three water assets and 150 SAR per year they more than likely have an agreement with the local authorities (Sherriff department or DNR) on which type of SAR are ran by this particular station. Several of these small boat stations are also level one readiness which is heavy based law enforcement.

    Instead of driveling over your dislike with the USCG, why dont you stop by the local USCG station and talk to the OIC and give him your concerns. If you still feel dissatisfied, you can go to Pensicola Sector. Maybe, just maybe there is a reason for them not responding the way you would like for them to respond.
     
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  13. Dr Dive

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    A couple of thoughts:

    A vessel is registered as commercial or recreational when you pay your fees. A vessel is acting as a commercial vessel only when there are paying passengers aboard. We won't debate the whole "chipping in on gas, etc" issue. A 'commercial' boat can be out for a fun day, and it is a recreational trip.

    That said, if you hold a Merchant Mariner license, you expect a higher level of scrutiny in any incident, recreational or commercial.

    It is incumbent on any operator to involve the Coast Guard in any incident involving injury, or potential injury. The response you receive is decided by the USCG, based on the info you provide, and their immediate available resources. Once notification is made, the operator's job is to manage his/her immediate situation and cooperate as fully as possible with the CG.

    Some of the details of the CG response sound odd, based on SOP for the Pensacola area, but each incident can vary. That said, I'm sure all involved did all they could.

    Sorting out the chaff, sounds like a good response under the circumstances, though not all could be saved. The captain should expect a thorough review, though circumstances suggest a recreational outing. Responsibilities for each party will be decided elsewhere. A sad day, and condolences and support to all involved.
     
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