How did your PPB class go? I will be certified shortly and am thinking about taking this class because I think it is very important and I need the practice.
PADI Peak Perfomance Buoyancy
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Kronos13
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The PPB class sounds like it could be worthwhile (if you get a good instructor) but the question I have is this.
Since I was OW certified from SSI, and they don't have an equivalent course to PPB, if I were to take the course from PADI (my money is as good as anyone's, right?) would it still count as a specialty course towards AOW (since SSI doesn't offer it) or would I just be doing this one for myself because I felt I needed it.
I unclear how the crossover works between the cert agencies.
Thanks,
Dave
Since I was OW certified from SSI, and they don't have an equivalent course to PPB, if I were to take the course from PADI (my money is as good as anyone's, right?) would it still count as a specialty course towards AOW (since SSI doesn't offer it) or would I just be doing this one for myself because I felt I needed it.
I unclear how the crossover works between the cert agencies.
Thanks,
Dave
Scubamedicjoe
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yes SSI does have same i just took it few weeks ago but of course that in NC and its a very worth while class even experence divers find something to help them
Kronos13
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Thanks medic13. I'll check and see if it's available out here yet.
Was it called Peak BC or something else?
Dave
Was it called Peak BC or something else?
Dave
Scubamedicjoe
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they called it advance bouyancy techniques and it is a excellent class i had three padi and two naui members in class all but two wear advance divers we all agred that it was a excellent classand you will allways learn something
Advanced Buoyancy Techniques
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Competent and comfortable buoyancy skills are what make a competent and comfortable diver. This class is designed to introduce divers to techniques and exercises that they can utilize throughout their diving career to quickly adjust to any changes in equipment configuration (such as using different exposure suits) or environmental conditions (i.e. diving in salt versus fresh water or cold versus warm water) that will affect their buoyancy. In the summer months, this course involves at least 2 dives in one of our local quarries. We also offer it during any appropriate escorted dive trips. A typical course utilizes some specific exercise practice at the open water site and then 2 dives completed under the direct supervision of an instructor. There is no text.
Time Commitment: One day in which two dives shall be completed under instructional supervision.
Text: None
Required Equipment
ersonal snorkeling gear and scuba equipment with functioning BCD auto-inflator and alternate air source, PSI/depth gauges or computer, two dive cylinders, appropriate exposure suit, compass, slate.
Advanced Buoyancy Techniques
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Competent and comfortable buoyancy skills are what make a competent and comfortable diver. This class is designed to introduce divers to techniques and exercises that they can utilize throughout their diving career to quickly adjust to any changes in equipment configuration (such as using different exposure suits) or environmental conditions (i.e. diving in salt versus fresh water or cold versus warm water) that will affect their buoyancy. In the summer months, this course involves at least 2 dives in one of our local quarries. We also offer it during any appropriate escorted dive trips. A typical course utilizes some specific exercise practice at the open water site and then 2 dives completed under the direct supervision of an instructor. There is no text.
Time Commitment: One day in which two dives shall be completed under instructional supervision.
Text: None
Required Equipment
ersonal snorkeling gear and scuba equipment with functioning BCD auto-inflator and alternate air source, PSI/depth gauges or computer, two dive cylinders, appropriate exposure suit, compass, slate.
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My favorite bouyancy practice comes when I'm diving springs or diving in the winter when I reach that 13-15' depth when my 6.5mm doubled farmer john, jacket, and hood regain their non-compressed bouyancy. That used to be a LOAD of fun for me when I was an FNG.
I'll never forget the first time I did an open water dive and experienced the wet suit compression syndrome, just sort of drifting down then . . . ZOOM ! ! ! !
Whoa!! Nellie !!! The DM told me to expect somewhat of a reduction in bouyancy, but WOW !!!!
I'll never forget the first time I did an open water dive and experienced the wet suit compression syndrome, just sort of drifting down then . . . ZOOM ! ! ! !
Whoa!! Nellie !!! The DM told me to expect somewhat of a reduction in bouyancy, but WOW !!!!
Kracken,
fristly this is a very old thread from back in 2002. I have no idea why it is in the BC/weights section as it isnt directly related to BC's and weights, but that is another matter.
I will start this by saying that i dont dive wetsuits that thick, nor do i have a farmer john type wetsuit, but my 5mm is thick enough.
I think what is happening to you as you start dropping is not an instant wetsuit compression episode, that would be gradual over a few atm's, but essentially as soon as you go underwater your suit will compress, but not instantly. What you have there is accelaration, you have a combination of various air compartments compressing, your wetsuit is one, but your BC or wing will be compressing and losing volume at a far faster rate. Around 10-15ft that becomes a noticable speed (hence the appearance of an acceleration), after you have started decending unless you start adding air to your BC or wing you are going to continue accelerating (wonderful thing watching people drop to the bottom and use their BC as a parking/hand brake at the last second - then yo-yoing back up a good distance from over-compensating - i dont do this BTW) deeper due to the air pocket compression under increasing atm's of pressure. Personally i couldnt drop like a stone due to my ears, so i start adding air around 10-15ft down to slow my descent, which is already at a snails pace anyway, get kind of neutral and when my ears are ready deep exhale and down we go again for a little bit more depth until my ears need another rest - rinse and repeat.
If you start adding air to your BC around that depth (to slow your descent) you wont notice the acceleration. At 15ft, your BC's air (depending on how much you dumped to start going under of course) will be 2/3's of what it was on the surface, and shrinking with depth until you add a little more. Personally i drop about enough air out of my wing to get me to just above the eye level with a full breath, exhale and off i go down - getting horizontal within a few feet of the surface (which also helps control your descent speed - increased surface area compared to feet first).
As for PPB, i have been kind of doing it during my AOW, as a seperate course, we have worked each dive on weighting, trim and we had one dive just devoted to th hula-hoops thing. I have also spent other dives just on skills with others i know outside of classes - both have been helpful, reading here on this thread gives me more ideas of things i can play with as with so much other stuff on SB.
BTW, flame on about the thicker wetsuit compression rates compared to my 3mm and 5mm suits.
fristly this is a very old thread from back in 2002. I have no idea why it is in the BC/weights section as it isnt directly related to BC's and weights, but that is another matter.
I will start this by saying that i dont dive wetsuits that thick, nor do i have a farmer john type wetsuit, but my 5mm is thick enough.
I think what is happening to you as you start dropping is not an instant wetsuit compression episode, that would be gradual over a few atm's, but essentially as soon as you go underwater your suit will compress, but not instantly. What you have there is accelaration, you have a combination of various air compartments compressing, your wetsuit is one, but your BC or wing will be compressing and losing volume at a far faster rate. Around 10-15ft that becomes a noticable speed (hence the appearance of an acceleration), after you have started decending unless you start adding air to your BC or wing you are going to continue accelerating (wonderful thing watching people drop to the bottom and use their BC as a parking/hand brake at the last second - then yo-yoing back up a good distance from over-compensating - i dont do this BTW) deeper due to the air pocket compression under increasing atm's of pressure. Personally i couldnt drop like a stone due to my ears, so i start adding air around 10-15ft down to slow my descent, which is already at a snails pace anyway, get kind of neutral and when my ears are ready deep exhale and down we go again for a little bit more depth until my ears need another rest - rinse and repeat.
If you start adding air to your BC around that depth (to slow your descent) you wont notice the acceleration. At 15ft, your BC's air (depending on how much you dumped to start going under of course) will be 2/3's of what it was on the surface, and shrinking with depth until you add a little more. Personally i drop about enough air out of my wing to get me to just above the eye level with a full breath, exhale and off i go down - getting horizontal within a few feet of the surface (which also helps control your descent speed - increased surface area compared to feet first).
As for PPB, i have been kind of doing it during my AOW, as a seperate course, we have worked each dive on weighting, trim and we had one dive just devoted to th hula-hoops thing. I have also spent other dives just on skills with others i know outside of classes - both have been helpful, reading here on this thread gives me more ideas of things i can play with as with so much other stuff on SB.
BTW, flame on about the thicker wetsuit compression rates compared to my 3mm and 5mm suits.
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