video showing diver's death - should be broadcasted?

[PRL]

In my opinion Dave Shaw video has value and should be made available only to the few at those depths, and do not apply to the diving community in general.
On the other hand Dave Weaver video should be made available to the diving community in general because it applies to many divers in the community. And at least trom the NG show I did learn quite a bit. And even this has to be taken in stride because from the NG version I did see few critical mistakes that in mine mind should be enough to call the dive. I keep an open mind and am not sure if the mistakes were real or just percieved by NG. In any case, I don't think that eather video will serve any good when shown outside the diving world. As a metter of fact both of those videos will probably close a fev more caves for the cave divers out there

 

[ChrisA]

Isn't that way beyond any dive depth? Never heard of that kind of depth for divers. Is that a misprint? :06:

Max depths for comercial or navy divers are pretty deep. I've heard over 500 meters (yes over 1,500 feet) but many times they are breathing surface suplied gas and will do the acent in a diving bell and do the deco time in an on-site chamber.
The world record for SCUBA is 308M or just over 1,000 feet.

 

[Scubaroo]

I've just returned from the OZTeK conference in Sydney, Australia, where I attended a presentation made by a leading hyperbaric specialist, which discussed the accident. There was a specific request that the expert opinions put forward during that particular presentation not be put onto the internet for open debate.

It was made clear during the presentation however that at the family's request, the video is not going to be available to the general public. Obviously parts of the video have alreday been circulated on TV and the internet, but this is against the family's wishes.

It was however available for study by a select few specialists in their field (hyperbaric, deep diving & cave diving). No doubt the pertinent information will filter throughout the rebreather community through more appropriate channels than an internet forum where people haven't heard of 270m dives, and the lessons learnt be passed on.

 

[Kennedydive]

Thanks for that update Scubaroo. With that being said we should all respect the family's wishes.
JK

 

[Zero]

270 meters ??????
Jesus-God !!! That's over 810" !!!!

I don't care what it is, I'm not going that deep out side of a deep diving submarine!

Let's not forget is was in a cave and at altitude... living on a very fine line.

 

[Kriterian]

From what was described in the news reports about the videos, there isn't much to learn. You hear him breathing, you see him cutting a line, and you hear his breathing stop. I'm kind of on the fence on if it should be shown. I would like to see it, but never if either family is against it.

I saw the video of the freediver, Audre Mestre, that drowned after a sled malfunction. It was very creepy, and later I wish I hadn't watched it.

 

[Jai Bar]

In Israel there is a movie about the Blue hole with stories about some of its victims. The movie a shocking video, in which a diver films his rapid descent and death. The last frames show the depth on his dive computer ~80 meters, and his last gasps for air.
The family accepted to show the movie on TV, and I think that all divers should see this movie, although it is very hard. After all, it teaches one of the most important facts of life..

 

[getwet2]

I don't think the video should be shown unless it clearly shows something that was done incorrectly by the diver. I watched the Discovery Channel episode and in my opinion not much could be learned by the average diver. If the so called experts that studied the video cannot find anything of value to teach others then why show it.

I think that more could be learned by an investigation into his equipment during the dive, what it was indicating, was it functioning correctly, when was the last time it was serviced if it wasn't? What about his past dives and the impact they had on this one? Was the dive planned properly? In a recovery situtation I would think that there should have been two divers there and not just one but I'm not a Tech diver so I could be wrong about this.

 

[DiveGolfSki]

actually closer to 880 feet.

No its not a misprint, he did the same dive back in october..

The open circuit record is 1030 feet but that was just a bounce dive.. both daves dives were working dives..

Sorry but I just noticed this post. Padiscubapro, just to clarify the open circuit record you stated of 1030 fsw is that open circuit (air/nitrox/trimix/heliox/etc.) or an RB? I believe that Shaw was on a RB (closed ciruit).

If anyone wants to know about open circuit deep diving (or train for it), you can check Hal Watt's new diving association, Professional Scuba Association:

http://www.mrscuba.com/index.php

Hal Watts, I think, currently holds the World's Record Deep Air Cave dive of 415 feet (127 meters).

 

[DiveGolfSki]

PadiScubapro, nevermind, I stand corrected (see below).

Dive instructor sets new scuba diving depth record off Phuket
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by LUTHER MONROE - CDNN Dive Safety Editor
PHUKET, Thailand (21 Dec 2003) -- A British dive instructor living and working in Thailand has set a new world record of 313 meters (1027 feet) for the deepest dive with scuba diving equipment.

Mark Ellyatt descended to the world record depth in just 12 minutes but his ascent took nearly seven hours to safely decompress before surfacing.

Ellyatt set the record off the renowned tourist island of Phuket with a team of support divers stationed at various depths with additional tanks. He started with six cylinders and used another 24 before surfacing.

The new record betters the old mark of 308 meters (1010.5 feet) set by John Bennett off Puerto Galera in the Philippines on November 6, 2001.

....After a deep dive February 2003, Ellyatt was hospitalized and received emergency treatment in a hyperbaric chamber for 'the bends'. He did not fully recover for three months.

Meanwhile the record for RB:


Rebreather divers claim record for deepest dive
Three German divers are claiming a depth record after a 224.5m dive in the Red Sea using Inspiration closed circuit rebreathers.

Chris Ullmann, Manfred FŸhrmann and Volker Clausen believe that they have completed the deepest rebreather dive ever undertaken after reportedly descending to 224.5m and spending 6 hours in decompression on their return.

The dive was carried out on 21 August at Safaga in the Egyptian Red Sea, with support divers provided by local dive shop Orca Divers.

The team used mixed gas on Inspiration closed circuit rebreathers, VR3 computers and carried a variety of open circuit bail out cylinders. Support divers were stationed from 100m upwards, and the final and longest section of their decompression was carried out inside an oxygen filled underwater habitat at 6m.

All three divers are reported to be safe and well on their return to the surface.

Meanwhile the planned 333m dive by Leigh Cunningham and Mark Andrews at Sharm has been postponed for an unknown period. Sponsors of the dive told Divernet that medical checks on the divers needed to be completed.