Costa Concordia modern Andrea Doria?

Avonthediver · Jan 18, 2012

I know all of you have seen and or are watching the very un-cool story of the Costa Concordia cruise liner and its Cowardly captain.

I love the history of the Andrea Doria so it just strikes me silly how the two ship's mirror each other in some aspects. Granted the A.D. was hit by another boat...er Ship...and the C.C. a really big rock that just came from no were?

But just take a look and see what I mean, The Italian cruise really has no luck.

emoreira · Jan 18, 2012

One of the main differences is that the Andrea Doria lays at 62 meters depth, and the Costa Concordia has more than 50 % of the whole structure out of the water. As it was informed in the newspaper, it will be probably refloated.

ScubaSteve · Jan 18, 2012

I would love to shore dive the Costa Concordia once the rescue efforts are finished. That would be very cool IMO.

Bombay High · Jan 18, 2012

ScubaSteve:
I would love to shore dive the Costa Concordia once the rescue efforts are finished. That would be very cool IMO.

The ship is very unstable. It is poised close to a shelf and rough weather can unsettle it and cause it to slide into much deeper water. Efforts are on to rescue some crew believed to be trapped in the engine room and possibly still alive.

One of the other priorities is to pump the 100's of thousands of liters of fuel off the craft to avert an ecologically disastrous spill.

One of the questions being asked is why recreational, cave and police divers are being used, while professional commercial salvage divers (who are trained for these extemely hazardous jobs) are being kept out when time is of the essence .

@dam · Jan 18, 2012

Carnival is in some serious trouble. Last year it was the power failure off of baja on the Carnival Splendor, now this. (The Splendor appears to be of very similar design to the Concordia)

(BTW- I did the cruise on the Splendor last summer. Awful. Shore time was short because they wanted you on the ship gambling. They put a band right below our room to draw people to the casino so we couldn't sleep. The whole thing was one big sales pitch. Even the safety briefing included several sales pitches. I'll never use Carnival again)

What an awful Captain- a real irresponsible coward. He hits a reef, delays the abandoned ship order, and then abandons ship himself. I hope Carnival loses their shirt for having hired this guy.

ScubaSteve · Jan 18, 2012

@dam:
I hope Carnival loses their shirt for having hired this guy.

I think initial estimates for that shirt was around 91.5 million dollars

SeaHorse81 · Jan 18, 2012

Bombay High:
One of the questions being asked is why recreational, cave and police divers are being used, while professional commercial salvage divers (who are trained for these extemely hazardous jobs) are being kept out when time is of the essence .

"Being kept out," or simply not available in sufficient numbers for the scope of the emergency? My impression is that they're scrambling everyone they can on short notice, but that's an impression, not fact.

Laurie S. · Jan 18, 2012

Just to keep the record straight, the Concordia is a Costa line ship, and Costa is owned by the Carnival Corporation. Carnival is another cruiseline that is owned by CCL. After CCL stock took a hit yesterday, it went back up this morning. The majority of the cost is covered by insurance. This won't hurt Carnival or CCL in the end and maybe passengers will start paying attention during the muster drills. This also wasn't the first screwup by that idiot of a captain.

mike_s · Jan 18, 2012

@dam:
(BTW- I did the cruise on the Splendor last summer. Awful. Shore time was short because they wanted you on the ship gambling. They put a band right below our room to draw people to the casino so we couldn't sleep.

I've been on several cruises, and hate to say it, but you get to choose your room in advance. we always make sure not to choose one under any nightclub, disco, theater, etc. Cruises are "party atmosphere's". They want people to go to the clubs and party and drink (buy drinks that cost $8 each).

next time just look and see what's on the decks above your room. It'll make your trip much easier.

The whole thing was one big sales pitch. Even the safety briefing included several sales pitches. I'll never use Carnival again)
y.

pretty much all cruises are that way now. I mean they give you a presentation on "shopping in port" and they showcase the shops that the parent company cruise lines owns. This should be no surprise.

Cruises are what you make of them. (or any vacation is in that respect). If you can't stand crowds or want "quietness", then cruises may not be for you.

Doubler · Jan 18, 2012

The only comparison between the Costa and the Titanic is they were both ships. The passengers here could have swam ashore.

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