Buddy breathing and GUE?

Kim · Sep 21, 2004

There is another thread going on about the merits (or not) of buddy breathing as an essential skill. While I already understand that the likelyhood of a bungied backup failing because it's full of crud etc is very small, I suppose that it could possibly fail for some other reason.
The question was raised in the other thread as to GUE's attitude to buddy breathing - i.e. what is the actual GUE position on this skill - is it practiced as part of DIR?
No-one has given an answer to that in the other thread so I have posted it here as I am very curious as to the answer - and if possible an explanation as to the why of the answer from a GUE perspective.

MASS-Diver · Sep 21, 2004

As far as I know it is not taught (atleast not in Fundies). In conditions where buddy breathing might critical (deep or in an overhead env), DIR divers would be diving doubles and often in teams of three - a lot of stuff would have to hit the fan before you got down to one reg. Plus, there all kinds of cool stuff like stripping regs underwater and pulling regs off deco bottles, etc.

I might be wrong though and I'd be interested to see what others had to say.

jbd · Sep 21, 2004

MASS-Diver:
As far as I know it is not taught (atleast not in Fundies). In conditions where buddy breathing might critical (deep or in an overhead env), DIR divers would be diving doubles and often in teams of three - a lot of stuff would have to hit the fan before you got down to one reg. Plus, there all kinds of cool stuff like stripping regs underwater and pulling regs off deco bottles, etc.

I might be wrong though and I'd be interested to see what others had to say.

My thoughts when I saw the post in the other thread were pretty much what MASS-diver has said here. I'm not GUE trained so I don't know what their official position is on buddy breathing.

Kim · Sep 22, 2004

I just checked the GUE site. It appears to be at least a part of Cave3. Wether it is actually taught earlier as well I can't really tell. Hopefully someone will tell us soon!!
In any event, as it's part of Cave3 I presume that they don't have anything against it.

filtered · Sep 22, 2004

KimLeece:
I just checked the GUE site. It appears to be at least a part of Cave3. Wether it is actually taught earlier as well I can't really tell. Hopefully someone will tell us soon!!
In any event, as it's part of Cave3 I presume that they don't have anything against it.

It's not taught in Tech 1 either.

Like what Mass Diver mentioned, when diving in teams of 3, with doubles and stages, the chances of having failures till the point of having one workable reg is very very very slim

Soggy · Sep 22, 2004

Plus, as a last resort, one can always breathe off the wing inflator...one of the reasons for the doubles hose routing DIR uses.

ianr33 · Sep 22, 2004

A lot would have to go wrong to have to buddy breathe off back gas wearing doubles. Seems more likely to be needed on deco gas.

Kim · Sep 22, 2004

Yes, I can see that it's probably considered a last resort. I was just curious if GUE considered it at all - ever. As I have now seen that it IS a part of Cave3 then I have at least a part of the answer. I don't really have the 'why' yet - i.e. the GUE attitude towards it. I'm guessing that the answer will probably be that all things considered with the rest of the training/equipment etc it'll come quite far down the list of OOA responses - that's what I'm curious about though: 'why?'
On a side note - I also wonder if it will be taught as part of the future GUE OW course which I have heard rumours will exist one day.

Kim · Sep 22, 2004

ianr33:
A lot would have to go wrong to have to buddy breathe off back gas wearing doubles. Seems more likely to be needed on deco gas.

Yup - that might give a lot more reason!

Northeastwrecks · Sep 22, 2004

Its not taught or required in Fundies. However, it is a skill I've practiced with my buddies. Frankly, we did it just to see if we could do it while maintaining buoyancy.

Since I usually dive in a team of three, there would need to be something seriously wrong in order for buddy breathing to become necessary.

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