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I've followed this story a bit because he actually lives in my neighborhood. I don't know him, not the same street, don't know the house he lives in, nor have I ever meet anyone who does.

It would be interesting to learn how manslaughter was arrived at. If he did the dasterdly deed he should be hanged by the neck until dead.

Would seem the courts lacked a preponderance of evidence/proof. For him to plead guilty to manslaughter, just to end the saga, doesn't sit right with me.

Bet we never know the truth. Hope I never run into the guy.

In Australia there is no Death Penalty

I don't think we can come to conclusions about why he or the court decided on the guilty plea for Manslaughter.

I personally prefer to believe that my country's legal system would not spend so much of my tax money investigating and then trying to bring this man to trial unless they had a strong enough case to have a decent chance at conviction for what he was charged with!
 
not fair!

now you must speak
 
If he pleaded guilty that by definition means he is guilty. Motives and speculation aside... Gabe Watson pleaded Guilty to Manslaughter the court accepted that plea so he is GUILTY of MANSLAUGHTER

This is a semantics quandary, I would say. I wouldn’t really agree that this is a statement of outright truth, hardly proof of anything other than the distinction that a particular legal system places on such labels. What this conviction means in “reality” using any number of other criteria for any number of people is completely unclear, not the least of whom are Tina’s parents no doubt.

If the press is a mitigating factor in Gabe’s decision to plead out and he is innocent or if he actually did murder Tina and knew this was a far better deal than the risk of a conviction, then he isn’t guilty of manslaughter, he is either innocent entirely and took a lesser sentence because he was scared or he actually is guilty of murder and got off easy with this slap on the wrist. And frankly there could even be some in between ground that doesn’t fall into these neat legal distinctions of guilty or innocent. I suppose one could argue that manslaughter is one of these distinctions.

The only thing we can say for sure is he is “convicted” of manslaughter, an entirely different “reality” if you will, one bent on honoring the process of law more than anything else. People can assume whatever labels they like where Gabe is concerned, just as many of us were doing before this closure of a kind came along. I doubt we’ll ever know much more than that, though I wish we could for a lot of reasons, again Tina’s parents come to mind.

Just out of curiosity. Does Australia have legal limitations on people making money off of a wrongful death case related to a conviction for manslaughter or murder? In other words, if Gabe writes one of those tell all books later on knowing he is projected under double jeopardy laws, will he be allowed to profit from it in Australia after he is out of prison?

This case seems to end just like it started, with a lot of unanswered questions and I am sure miserable people reeling from the ambiguity and the lack of any real and final answers.

And my thoughts go to Tina’s parents one more time.

Cheers!
 
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This is a semantics quandary, I would say. I wouldnÃÕ really agree that this is a statement of outright truth, hardly proof of anything other than the distinction that a particular legal system places on such labels. What this conviction means in ÅÓeality using any number of other criteria for any number of people is completely unclear, not the least of whom are TinaÃÔ parents no doubt.

If the press is a mitigating factor in GabeÃÔ decision to plead out and he is innocent or if he actually did murder Tina and knew this was a far better deal than the risk of a conviction, then he isnÃÕ guilty of manslaughter, he is either innocent entirely and took a lesser sentence because he was scared or he actually is guilty of murder and got off easy with this slap on the wrist. And frankly there could even be some in between ground that doesnÃÕ fall into these neat legal distinctions of guilty or innocent. I suppose one could argue that manslaughter is one of these distinctions.

The only thing we can say for sure is he is ÅÄonvicted of manslaughter, an entirely different ÅÓeality if you will, one bent on honoring the process of law more than anything else. People can assume whatever labels they like where Gabe is concerned, just as many of us were doing before this closure of a kind came along. I doubt weÃÍl ever know much more than that, though I wish we could for a lot of reasons, again TinaÃÔ parents come to mind.

Just out of curiosity. Does Australia have legal limitations on people making money off of a wrongful death case related to a conviction for manslaughter or murder? In other words, if Gabe writes one of those tell all books later on knowing he is projected under double jeopardy laws, will he be allowed to profit from it in Australia after he is out of prison?

This case seems to end just like it started, with a lot of unanswered questions and I am sure miserable people reeling from the ambiguity and the lack of any real and final answers.

And my thoughts go to TinaÃÔ parents one more time.

Cheers!


Short answer is ... you cannot profit from any crime you have committed.

Apparently he has been sentenced to 4.5 years.
 
My speculation would be that he went to Australia thinking they didn't have enough to convict him. All the talk was of him going there to plead innocent and clear his name. Once there and in custody, maybe he was confronted with some additional evidence or other factors that led him and his solicitor to believe his chances weren't as good as he thought. At that point, some kind of deal would have been his best bet. This could have been the case whether he were guilty or not.
 
Bowl of...

Now, now... No need to do that. Disagreements are healthy afterall. And biting your tongue can lead to serious injury, don't you know?

ItBruce

I&#8217;d heard about this organization but hadn&#8217;t gotten the time to read through it until about now. Thanks for reminding me just before the summer holiday.

Cheers!
 
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Thanks for all...

Thanks for the answer.

So, this means that after he is out of jail, he still cannot profit from Tina&#8217;s death. How is this guaranteed? Are there loopholes to this, such as claiming he is innocent of this crime and stating his case in whatever way he wants while also capitalizing on the hoopla surrounding this tragedy? How does one assert &#8220;profit&#8221; in a case like this? I ask because there seems to be a lot of wiggle room given the lack of certainty in the outcome, enough for Gabe to try at least to put &#8220;an innocent man&#8217;s&#8221; spin on this situation in retrospect. Granted, he would probably need a ghost writer to complete the project. Feasible?

Cheers!
 
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