The continuing sagas of the Blue Heron Bridge

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So, My question would be: Should I plan to dive BHB on March 9, plan to dive another location, or just not plan on diving this trip to FL.

I would donate as well if someone could tell me where and to who and some assurance the funds will be used for it's intended purpose.
 
Beach Sampling History

:cool2:I just checked the Florida Healthy Beaches website--it's part of the state health thing-they posted the results of Feb 28 testing--still poor with regard to both Enterrococcus and Geometric Mean, but good in terms of Fecal Coliform--so, NO WARNING was issued.

:idk:I don't see exactly why they would open with Geometric Mean still in the poor range--I hope Angry Turtle will comment---and my THANKS for your earlier comments!!
 
Dennis, if we can't dive BHB, maybe we could do a boat dive from Boynton.
 
I'm back with sad news--BHB still closed according to this new press release from the Palm Beach County Health Dept.

NO SWIMMING ADVISORY REMAINS POSTED?PHIL FOSTER PARK 03/02/2011 Press Release, Palm Beach County Health Department

The new data is from 3-1-11.

"Phil Foster's results for enterococcus are at 260 parts per 100 milliliters of marine water and have elevated the geometric mean (average of sampling over five weeks) to 49.69 well above the 35 it takes to be rated in the good range. "

Ouch! I guess the source has not been found or stopped yet.
 
Dennis, if we can't dive BHB, maybe we could do a boat dive from Boynton.


from what I got from this Email today.. Diving on the local reefs will put you in a sewage plume......Stay Home!!


Florida Governor Rick Scott invites winter-weary nor therners to come and swim in sewage.

Feb 28 2011-Tallahassee, FL After a brutally harsh winter for many Americans, Florida Governor Rick Scott and VISIT FLORIDA®, the states official tourism marketing corporation, have organized the Share a Little Sunshine Tour to invite those hit hardest by this years unseasonably cold weather to defrost in sunny Florida. Governor Scott and the rest of the Sunshine Ambassadors will start their two-day tour March 1 in Orlando and make stops in Washington, D.C., Philadelphia, New York City and Chicago. Read more.

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What they are not telling their audience is that along the southeast Florida coast five ocean outfall pipes spew over 300,000,000 gallons-a-day (MGD) of partially treated sewage into the coastal waters.

In a July 2008 ceremony held at the 11th International Coral Reef Symposium, Ft. Lauderdale, then Florida Governor Charlie Crist signed into law legislation ending the practice of dumping inadequately treated sewage from ocean outfall pipes into Florida coastal waters.

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.The signing was hailed by hundreds of coral reef scientists gathered from across the globe who attended the international conference.

Now the Florida Legislature is moving to derail the ocean outfall legislation

Three years later newly elected Florida State Senator Miguel Diaz de la Portilla of Miami introduced bill SB 796 designed to delay the implementation of the 2008 legislation and allow the continued dumping of sewage into Florida waters until 2030. An identical House bill HB 613 was filed by Representative Carlos Trujillo, also of Miami.

SB 796 does not deny the sewage is killing the costal environment, in fact the bill states:The Legislature also finds that discharge of domestic wastewater through ocean outfalls compromises the coastal environment, quality of life, and local economies that depend on those resources. The Legislature declares that more stringent treatment and management requirements for such domestic wastewater and the subsequent, timely elimination of ocean outfalls as a primary means of domestic wastewater discharge are in the public interest.

What the pro-sewage lobby, led by Miami-Dade County, is saying is that it just costs too much to protect Floridas coral reefs and coastal tourism economy. This is the same county that can afford to build a new half billion dollar sports stadium for the Florida Marlins baseball team (as long as the team agrees to change their name to the Miami Marlins).

Thinking about South Florida as a Spring Break destination?

In 2004 NOAA performed a tracer study on the Hollywood Florida ocean outfall that pumps 42 MGD into the coastal waters. They found the sewage effluent flowed northward parallel to the coast with a broadening of the width of the plume to about 3 km at the farthest point sampled, 66 km from the outfall. That 40 miles (66km) delivers the Hollywood poo to the doorstep of ritzy Palm Beach. And the Hollywood 42 MGD is less than 15% of the 300 million gallons dumped everyday into south Florida coastal waters

Source: http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/themes/CoastalRegional/projects/FACE/PDF/EST_2004.pdf

Killing coral costs jobs

According to the Florida Department of Environmental Protection: 239,000 acres of coral reefs and associated reef resources lie within the four-county area that stretches more than100 miles from the northern boundary of Biscayne National Park in Miami-Dade County to the St. Lucie Inlet in Martin County. These reefs are part of the third longest reef system in the world which annually sustains more than 71,000 jobs and generates $6.3 billion dollars in sales and income for Florida.

Source: http://www.dep.state.fl.us/secretary/news/2009/02/files/0212_02.pdf

Tell Gov.Rick Scott what you think about Senate Bill SB 796: Rick.Scott@eog.myflorida.com

Tell the Florida official tourism marketing corporation VISIT FLORIDA: VISIT FLORIDA Feedback Form | Florida Vacation, Tourism, Travel & Entertainment Information - VISITFLORIDA.com

Please forward this to everyone on your email list that cares about protecting coral reefs or is thinking about taking a dip in South Florida waters.

Thank you for your support!

Palm Beach County Reef Rescue

Palm Beach County Reef Rescue Home

PO Box 207 * Boynton Beach, FL 33425 * unsubscribe
 
Dan,

You may know this already, but just in case I'll point it out.

The kit that you are planning to buy is for E. Coli and total coliforms.

The Health department tests for these on a secondary basis, but the primary indicator for possible sewage contamination in saltwater is enteroccocci.

Even if your tests show no coliforms, it does not rule out enterococci

5.11 Fecal Bacteria | Monitoring & Assessment | US EPA


"Enterococci are a subgroup within the fecal streptococcus group. Enterococci are distinguished by their ability to survive in salt water, and in this respect they more closely mimic many pathogens than do the other indicators. Enterococci are typically more human-specific than the larger fecal streptococcus group. EPA recommends enterococci as the best indicator of health risk in salt water used for recreation and as a useful indicator in fresh water as well."


"Studies conducted by EPA to determine the correlation between different bacterial indicators and the occurrence of digestive system illness at swimming beaches suggest that the best indicators of health risk from recreational water contact in fresh water are E. coli and enterococci. For salt water, enterococci are the best. Interestingly, fecal coliforms as a group were determined to be a poor indicator of the risk of digestive system illness. However, many states continue to use fecal coliforms as their primary health risk indicator."


If you look at the Dept of Health results page for Phil Foster Park, you will see that fecal coliform is tested only sporadically. They are not even testing now that the enterococci are high.

Beach Sampling History

Thanks. Fascinating stuff. It sent me to Google. I don't know much about "digestive system illnesses". I assume that means "food poisoning" type symptoms.

My bouts with such symptoms have been rather unpleasant, but I wouldn't have considered the situations anything approaching "life-threatening". Of late, I'd have to say that, on balance, the weight loss opportunity probably out-weighed (pun intended) the inconvenience. :D

The enterococcal infections that I read about were not so nice (what with the antibiotic resistance problems), but they seem limited primarily to elderly, hospitalized/catheterized folk. But, these Enterocci seem to be valued as "indicators" based largely on their ability to survive in salt water.

Anybody know how bad the risks really are? I had a great three days of diving last weekend at BHB. As best I can tell, I didn't get sick - and missed out on an apparent weight loss opportunity. That water sure looked clear. . .

Kevin
 
Just happened to capture a collector red handed via video last Friday. I'm still terrible with video with this camera.

When I confronted the collector, it looked initially like he might cough up the poor little Seaweed Blenny, but later it looked as though I might be attacked.

Got to work on my editing, I know. . .

YouTube - Seaweed Blenny collector

Kevin
 
....Anybody know how bad the risks really are? I had a great three days of diving last weekend at BHB. As best I can tell, I didn't get sick - and missed out on an apparent weight loss opportunity. That water sure looked clear. . .

Kevin


Kevin,

For full disclosure, I was there too, both Saturday (107 min underwater) and Sunday (127 min underwater). I do not have any apparent effects.

It's all about statistical probabilities. If I remember correctly when the grading changes from moderate to poor, right at that threshold they expect 19 out of a 100 people to present symptoms related to the water contamination exposure. Don't get fooled by water clarity though.
 
Kevin,

For full disclosure, I was there too, both Saturday (107 min underwater) and Sunday (127 min underwater). I do not have any apparent effects.

It's all about statistical probabilities. If I remember correctly when the grading changes from moderate to poor, right at that threshold they expect 19 out of a 100 people to present symptoms related to the water contamination exposure. Don't get fooled by water clarity though.

The risk I'm wondering about is the risk of serious illness -especially the risk to one who is in the water with a mask over his nose and a regulator keeping water out of his mouth and a wetsuit separating most of the rest of him from the outside world. Also, what is the actual "serious" illness risk to a nekkid swimmer? I'm thinking that an upset tummy might be worth getting in order to see the cool stuff down there. If it's the kind of thing that's featured in an episode of "House", then that's another level of concern.

And speaking of risk, last time down there were lots of jellyfish floating around. And, just about every time down there I've seen numerous toothy barracuda right close to me!

Bottom line, I'm really wondering how much risk of actual serious disease is associated with getting into the water with the types of bacteria that show up when Enterococcus is present at these levels, versus simply the thought of the "ickiness" factor of swimming in raw sewage. Do most of us know that we eat lots of rodent poop in our food? Ever seen the plaque from your teeth under a microscope? Or thought about why yer mom brings up the subject of "clean" underwear? And then there's: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20415844

On another subject, I did get a taste of the difference in parking availability on a Saturday as compared to Thursday and Friday. Dang. :D

Kevin
hoping nobody does a bacterial count inside my minivan
 
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