New to the thread, and with a question for you veterans!

[Diver0001]

Why do you need to ask? It was a good question.

I get the impression that my question didn't land how I intended. I didn't ask because I thought it was a stupid question. Quite the contrary. I asked because I wondered if there was more of a story behind the question than what the OP posted. Nothing more.

R..

 

[TSandM]

Honestly, I would not expect the average scuba instructor to know the answer to this question. Such injuries are not all that common, and education about the medicine of lung overexpansion injury is fairly sketchy to dive instructors -- just to make them aware that such injuries exist, and a little about what symptoms might help them recognize them, but very little about the pathophysiology or the time course. I thought it was a good question, and a very reasonable one to throw out to this community to help answer.

 

[japan-diver]

Honestly, I would not expect the average scuba instructor to know the answer to this question. Such injuries are not all that common, and education about the medicine of lung overexpansion injury is fairly sketchy to dive instructors -- just to make them aware that such injuries exist, and a little about what symptoms might help them recognize them, but very little about the pathophysiology or the time course. I thought it was a good question, and a very reasonable one to throw out to this community to help answer.

I find the OP question a good one. I do find it a bit disturbing that some would not expect an instructor to be able to answer this question. I would expect any one of my rescue students let alone one of my DM's or instructors to be able to answer the question quite in detail. Has it come to the point that lack of education and expertise in field is accepted? Any instructor worth a dam should have extensive knowledge of lung injuries and DCS including some basic knowledge of the pathophysiology and time course of diving related injuries. Now I am sure TSandM being a physician would have more knowledge then I and more experience dealing with direct cases but the info that she presented and mike also should be standard in any rescue course let alone a DM level course.

 

[ganu76]

... and since we're on the subjects of tension pneunothorax, overexpansion injuries, etc, would these types of injuries be addressed in a Rescue Diver course?

Thanks for tolerating my slight hijack.

Btw, good question OP.

 

[japan-diver]

... and since we're on the subjects of tension pneunothorax, overexpansion injuries, etc, would these types of injuries be addressed in a Rescue Diver course?

Thanks for tolerating my slight hijack.

Btw, good question OP.

I know they are in any course I teach and they are detailed in the NAUI Rescue textbook. These should be addressed in any Rescue course.

 

[HowardE]

This was already mentioned... The answer given by Mike is almost verbatim from "the book" - Rescue, DM, you pick it. This is probably why Diver0001 asked "why are you asking this?" since it's clearly stated in the DM manual, which the OP posted he was working on.

... and since we're on the subjects of tension pneunothorax, overexpansion injuries, etc, would these types of injuries be addressed in a Rescue Diver course?

Thanks for tolerating my slight hijack.

Btw, good question OP.

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Hi.

What Mike wrote is pretty much straight out of the book. Make sure you read the books and learn the physics and physiology of diving, as you'll be tested on that when you take your written divemaster exam

 

[rhwestfall]

... and since we're on the subjects of tension pneunothorax, overexpansion injuries, etc, would these types of injuries be addressed in a Rescue Diver course?

Thanks for tolerating my slight hijack.

Btw, good question OP.

Looking back, it was core curriculum in OW (YMCA), AOW (PDIC), Rescue (NAUI), and again in MSD (NAUI). I can only assume (as others have said it is) that it is in DM....

OP - Just curious, what agency are you training under?

 

[Jim Lapenta]

They are addressed in the SEI OW class and so would also then be addressed in any SDI classes I would teach. And quite graphically I might add. Definitely not something to be glossed over or minimized at any level I would think.
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[fnfalman]

unpopular, but agree 100%.
Dive-master candidates should ask this type, really all types unless they are unable to get an answer, first from their instructor.
#1 give your instructor the chance to do his/her job, DMing is serious business and your instructor should be as informed about your learning curve as you are about your learning curve.
#2 your paying for this instruction, SB forum may be free, but you will often get conflicting opinions
#3 if you already asked your instructor and they didn't know, well..they're not very good

No rudeness intended, an apologies for my usual bluntness.

So, the DM Candidate just take the instructor's words for everything?

The DM Candidate can't exercise a modicum of intelligence and perhaps seek inputs and knowledge from other sources as well?

 

[Hawkwood]

I get the impression that my question didn't land how I intended. I didn't ask because I thought it was a stupid question. Quite the contrary. I asked because I wondered if there was more of a story behind the question than what the OP posted. Nothing more.

R..

I understood that was what you were getting at.