Diver lost 15 Jan 2013 Cozumel

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Not the outcome desired, but still - good that they did find her.

Odd how the last paragraph claims that Dive Paradise "denied that one of his clients had been lost and after maritime authorities took the case they failed to support the search..." :confused:
It just seems odd for the news article to claim that. The boat did call for help searching, the Navy was called in - I presume by the Harbor Master, and it's not like they could make such a claim anyway since she was diving with family. Google translations are always questionable, but that is just odd.

According to the Dive Paradise website, the Calypso holds a maximum of 16 divers and is used for a minimum of 12 divers plus Divemaster. I looked this up because one of the news articles quoted Lashlee's mother as saying there were "'a lot' of people on the boat".

So it is likely that there were between 12 and 16 divers total in the water plus divemaster(s).

I will leave it to others to judge whether this is "a lot" or not by Cozumel dive standards.
I think that park rules require one DM per eight paying divers maximum. If the boat had 12 or more paying divers, that might seem like a lot to some conveying information - specially under stress.
 
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If non-diving friends &/or family in Utah are following the thread, it might help to point out a couple of things divers take for granted in Cozumel but the general public wouldn't know.

1.) Cozumel tends to be drift diving - the current carries you along as a group, usually without much swimming. The strength of the current varies, particularly with how many feet you are hovering out from the reef.

2.) On land, you have full peripheral vision, people around you are in a 2-dimensional position (in front of, behind, or to your side, but not above or below you unless they climb trees), you can hear sounds and localize where people are and you are relaxed, not task loaded, and it's easier to monitor sounds and what's going on around you.

3.) When scuba diving, it's a 3-dimensional environment. Another diver can be behind or off to the side, but also a few feet higher or lower than you. A scuba mask cuts off some of your peripheral vision. You can't talk to each other, so what sounds divers make are limited and not distinctive (you can't just holler 'Hey, Joe, over here'), and sound travels so fast in water that you can't tell which direction it's coming from; it sounds like it's coming from all around you. The environment is very interesting. Diving involves monitoring a number of things, such as buoyancy to hover in the water, remaining air supply, depth, where other people are, animals on the reef, etc... All this in an alien environment. In other words, it's easy for a diver to get 'task loaded.' A task loaded diver can be hard-put to notice or keep up with other things.

Bottom Line: It's way more challenging for a pair of divers to stay together than 2 people walking side-by-side on land.

I mention this because as people pour over the thread, they may see questions about 'Where was her dive buddy?' Most divers dive in buddy pairs, though people vary widely in how strict they are with the buddy relationship. One could get the impression that the buddy should be constantly within arm's length and glancing at her every 10 seconds, or some such. The rigorousness of the buddy system, and adherence to it, are often discussed on this forum but not everyone agrees on the ideal and real world dives often don't follow the ideal well.

The factors I mentioned could've impacted both the deceased and her dive buddy. A diver's death can be psychologically debilitating for the buddy, and it's easy to gloss over how quickly and easily people can get separated from each other.

Richard.
 
My thoughts, which could be wrong.
I know they are your thoughts. I am asking what is the basis for them. What makes you think that?


 
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Good post drrich2. It started me thinking back to when I first started diving. ALL of my dives have been in Cozumel. I remember my first 10-20 dives......all I could focus on was :

Don't use up my air to fast
Don't run into other divers
Don't touch or kick the coral
Pay attention to my depth
Don't blow my safety stop

It took awhile to get comfortable enough to be able to really enjoy the beauty and peace of the dive and the under water world around me. I really did feel over tasked in the beginning. I had the BEST DM but nothing can really prepare you for the feeling of be a little over whelmed in the beginning.
 


There are a lot of people here in Utah that this forum is the only way we have of getting news. If there is one with more facts, and less speculation. I would really appreciate having it. I would like to thank those who have kept the subject matter to Tamy. It has been helpful in dealing with this. If you have any I would greatly appreciate updates. This is a tragedy that no one should have to endure. Blame won't help her now. Facts will help us get closure.

My advice is to ignore this forum, there are few facts here as no-one knows anything other than what is read in the media or through second hand reportings.

If you have access to Tamy's family, that is where your answer are.

She had brothers on the dive with her, they are the ones who last saw her, they were the ones who were with her and know more about the details than any of us ever will. They know the conditions, the circumstances and what she was doing on the dive, depths, times everything. Her brothers have all the answers because everything of importance happened underwater and they were the only ones there.
 
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A lot of people have made some leaps in the facts. I understand that you are all scared and or upset to lose a friend diver, But as tamys sisteI know that you do not even come close to knowing the facts. This needs to be friendly informative site. Thank-you all
 
I'm sure the moderators are going to have fun chopping this thread up..... The deceased diver was found on the beach 3 miles away? Is that what i am reading? That is incredible. I would not begin to accuse an operator of not doing their job, simply because somebody does not make it back. There are many ways that could occur and a vast majority are not under control of the DM or the boat operator. HOWEVER....

I am stuggling to comprehend how she could presumably wash ashore without someone finding her during the large scale search? Certainly people die and sink and after a degree of decomposition the body can accumulate gas and float back up. But that does not seem reasonable in such a short time.. How would something like this occur? I apologize to the family for the bluntness of this topic.
 
Missing diver has not been found. Tammy has been diving for 7 yr. She just completed a 5k run recently
 
She was found on the beach about 3 miles north of the dive site. She was newly certified - not sure if she certified here or was certified at home before coming to the island. This was her third or fourth day diving - first dive trip. That's really all I know. Very sad and tragic.

Is this verified? Very confusing?
 
TLsSIS: WOW.....thank you for the information. Amazing that the recovery was reported in the Cozumel paper. A lesson learned in "Don't believe everything you read". and again.....very, very sorry for your loss.
 
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