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If helping loading/unloading a boat and issuing equipment is too much to ask in exchange for not paying to go out and dive, then maybe it's better you just stick as a recreational diver!

Thought that was what was implied by the dive free for life, free recreational diving, not working.

Many divers, myself including have no problem helping out, it's when it becomes a requirement there is a problem.
Also,
By chance is the complete fun dive for free thing out in writing somewhere ? Was it there in 2002?
 
implied by the dive free for life, free recreational diving, not working.
Also,

I'm not sure where it says that, are you getting this confused with that medical thread?
 
I'm not sure where it says that, are you getting this confused with that medical thread?
Post # 11 is where it started, Did you actually reply to this thread without reading through it?

It would also be wise to pick a place that offers free fun dives for life
 
It's my fault for not explaining the entirety of how the free fun dives for life works. Every dive shop I have ever heard of offering this kind of promotion have all expected you to carry tanks and equipment on and off the boat as part of the team you were trained up in.

RTB, it really sounds like you've had issues with dive shops in the past that you haven't been able to get over and are applying a whole can of ****ty attitude to the entire idea of "free fun dives for life".

Care to share your experience?

Believe it or not, there are dive shops that honor this, and will always honor it, simply because they are people that care about their word and relationship with their customers.

In addition, I have yet to have heard of a returning DM that whines about doing their part on the boat. They are DMs, that's the stuff that DMs do and the ones I've had come back through my shops enjoy being a part of the team while they're on vacation. Most DMs I've known have become DMs because they want to be a professional caliber diver and know their **** when diving on vacation.
 
Post # 11 is where it started, Did you actually reply to this thread without reading through it?

Some places offer "free fun dives" at the end of a recreational course, we don't advertise or offer "free fun dives" with the Divemaster course, at the professional level you can return and help out and get extra diving in, not charged but as I mentioned above we do expect you to support our operations when needed. I wish they offered this "free fun dives" in places where I vacation dive, as I'd sign up for a DM course as well.
 
LOL, that's the exact same thing as the "free fun dive" promotion, Andy :D
 
with the Divemaster course, at the professional level you can return and help out and get extra diving in, not charged but as I mentioned above we do expect you to support our operations when needed. .
That's why I have asked a few times if the policy is written anywhere or if it was in 2002 as there seems to be some confusion as to your replies and what was expected by Stout. I wonder if the place Kelly mentions doing free fun dives actually offers that or do they expect someone to work as well. While I find most diving "fun" we all know that the term is generally used when talking about purely recreational non working dives.
 
Like I said earlier, I have not heard of a dive shop that did not expect a returning DM to help with the DM duties along with the rest of the team. Once in the water, there is no obligation to lead a dive or anything like that. The only work you are expected to put in is helping load and unload the boat.

We usually use the term "fun dive" to describe a dive that is not a course dive so anyone, including returning DMs, doing a dive off a shop boat is doing a "fun dive".
 
RTB I'm trying to explain we have never offered what we all know and understand as "free fun dives" with a Divemaster course, "free dives" yes as I have stated and Kelly states that is what comes at the professional level and by definition/local insudtry standard implies helping out as part the team, not rocking up 30 minutes prior to boat departure coffee in hand and being waited on!

We could go round in circles going over the meaning and intent of "free dives" at the professional level but I defer back to #24.

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Like I said earlier, I have not heard of a dive shop that did not expect a returning DM to help with the DM duties along with the rest of the team. Once in the water, there is no obligation to lead a dive or anything like that. The only work you are expected to put in is helping load and unload the boat.

We usually use the term "fun dive" to describe a dive that is not a course dive so anyone, including returning DMs, doing a dive off a shop boat is doing a "fun dive".

Thanks for bringing that up as well Kelly. We're more than happy to have DMT's and returning DM's go out on the boats and do their own fun dives as well and this happens in every DMT program and when DM's return to dive with us.
 
You keep mentioning professional level? Why? They are not doing any professional duties .The vast majority of DM's ever certified by PADI are not current. I wonder how there could be such confusion from one of your own shops divemasters as to what was expected. I guess from your lack of reply your shops program is not and was not ever spelled out and simply implied and then interpreted in different ways. I was just interested in the various policies though they don't really matter, When on RTB I fill my own tanks and don't use a shop or boat, You may , however, want to look into setting the policy in writing for the future so as to avoid any further confusion.

If helping load and unload the boat is all that is required then what was meant by

We also asked that you assist an Instructor on a course upon arrival to bring you up to speed with our operational procedures as they evolve and advance over time.
Has loading and unloading a boat changed so much that one would need to assist a whole class just to learn it?
 
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