Cozumel COVID-19 updates

[jlyle]

The grasshopper - Jules Lefebvre - Google Arts & Culture

 

[halocline]

Yes, I'm aware of the fable, jeez, can't anyone make a little joke around here.....

Excuse but it's time for my dinner. I'm having fried grasshoppers.

 

[ggunn]

I fear that Cozumel is going to suffer for a long time with the coronavirus. Looking at the graphs of new COVID-19 cases in Mexico and in the US (where most of their visitors come from), it seems pretty obvious to me that things are going to get worse, maybe a lot worse, before they get better.

To make matters worse, there's this:

Italian whole-town study finds 40% of coronavirus cases had no symptoms

Italian authorities tested nearly everyone in a small Italian town and found that 40% of people infected were asymptomatic and were just as likely to transmit the disease as were sick people. Screening for fever will only catch 60% of carriers.

 

[deepsea21]

I fear that Cozumel is going to suffer for a long time with the coronavirus. Looking at the graphs of new COVID-19 cases in Mexico and in the US (where most of their visitors come from), it seems pretty obvious to me that things are going to get worse, maybe a lot worse, before they get better.

ggunn... Of course things are going to get worse until a vaccine is developed and available on a monumental scale. Until then, what should the US, Mexican & global population as a whole do? Quarantine for months on end with no means of supporting themselves and end up homeless? How fast do you think COVID (and many other diseases) would spread among the massive homeless communities that would form globally if people are PROHIBITED from working? Should countries with the ability to do so keep printing $, racking up debt, and handing that cash out until their currencies are worthless?

Those who keep preaching quarantine and shut down obviously have paychecks that keep coming in or are retired and no longer contribute to society but consume benefits. Whatever their situation is, they have no right to judge and preach to others about why they shouldn't go back to work and living their lives while taking the best precautionary measures they can.

 

[ggunn]

ggunn... Of course things are going to get worse until a vaccine is developed and available on a monumental scale. Until then, what should the US, Mexican & global population as a whole do? Quarantine for months on end with no means of supporting themselves and end up homeless? How fast do you think COVID (and many other diseases) would spread among the massive homeless communities that would form globally if people are PROHIBITED from working? Should countries with the ability to do so keep printing $, racking up debt, and handing that cash out until their currencies are worthless?

Those who keep preaching quarantine and shut down obviously have paychecks that keep coming in or are retired and no longer contribute to society but consume benefits. Whatever their situation is, they have no right to judge and preach to others about why they shouldn't go back to work and living their lives while taking the best precautionary measures they can.

Everyone judges and preaches from their own perspective. There is no pat solution to the problem, but many other countries are certainly faring far better than are the US and Mexico. One thing those countries have in common is the willingness to trade short term pain for long term survival. They are also far more aggressive and proactive with testing and contact tracing, and they reacted before things got too far out of hand.

There are several vaccines in large scale human evaluation right now, and that is a good thing, but we still don't know for sure that a vaccine is possible, and if it is, how effective it will be. Smallpox vaccine is very effective, but influenza vaccine, not so much. It may not be the panacea that so many are counting on.

 

[Kinglake]

I fear that Cozumel is going to suffer for a long time with the coronavirus. Looking at the graphs of new COVID-19 cases in Mexico and in the US (where most of their visitors come from), it seems pretty obvious to me that things are going to get worse, maybe a lot worse, before they get better.

To make matters worse, there's this:

Italian whole-town study finds 40% of coronavirus cases had no symptoms

Italian authorities tested nearly everyone in a small Italian town and found that 40% of people infected were asymptomatic and were just as likely to transmit the disease as were sick people. Screening for fever will only catch 60% of carriers.

I am unclear how 40% having no symptoms is a bad thing? To me, that means the virus is not nearly a big deal as being made out to be.

 

[ggunn]

I am unclear how 40% having no symptoms is a bad thing? To me, that means the virus is not nearly a big deal as being made out to be.

It's a big deal because they were spreading the disease as readily as sick people were, and had they not been tested and quarantined they would have made the outbreak in their town a lot worse than it was. It's a big deal because 60% of the people they would have spread it to would have gotten sick and many of them would have died. It's a big deal because it's an indicator that a whole lot of people who refuse to take measures to slow the spread of the disease because they don't feel sick are making other people sick and many of them are dying. It's a case of a little bit of good news and a lot of bad news.

 

[DandyDon]

I am unclear how 40% having no symptoms is a bad thing? To me, that means the virus is not nearly a big deal as being made out to be.

Sometimes the internet makes me want to scream!

 

[ggunn]

Sometimes the internet makes me want to scream!

Sometimes I do scream. :^)

 

[BoundForElsewhere]

Gee. What are we going to talk about when the virus is gone?