I've done a number of dives to 130' with an AL80. 8 minutes at depth and return to 20' for 20 minutes, still come out of the water with at least 500 psi.
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3rds is sometimes way too conservative, at other times not conservative enough.
Min gas. The only sensible standard. Do the math and compare the two.
John Denver couldn't access his reserve either
probably thought he could, like a buddy diver
Well. I took the OP as a question of whether diving to 108' (33m) carrying only a single Al80 (11L 207 bar) is insane. It might be, if people dive like he describes his fellow divers at that particular dive ("Divers would come back on board with extremely low pressure readings on their gauges"), or it might not be if people follow proper min gas calculations and watch their gas.Are we answering the OP's question based on the specific site/conditions which he outlined and OTF elaborated on in regard to potential hazards or are we answering just based on a typical 108' dive?
It seems there are both varieties of answers...
Why only open water? AFAIU, min gas should work for any kind of dive. It just depends on the margins you require.Agreed, min gas is the proper way to plan for any open water dive, deco or no deco.
Why only open water? AFAIU, min gas should work for any kind of dive. It just depends on the margins you require.
Thirds is inflexible and doesn't take the depth profile into account. To me, min gas should be way superior to thirds as long as you have an inkling of your expected depth profile and your required reserves.
I wonder how many divers go to 100 feet with an AL 80 in Cozumel on an average day. 100? 200? I can't even guess.Does PADI or the other training agencies define the minimum tank size for a 100 plus foot dive? If not, then calling the practice (of using an 80) "insane" seems a little "dramatic" to me.