So some instructor lied and cheated and defrauded you and PADI. What is your point?
Taking Open Water course for the 2nd time....
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Belzelbub
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See below.
Exactly. I was also responding to the absolute that you can’t get a certification if diving no deeper than 10’.
let me rephrase - you instructor failed you and every other PADI instructor by providing you that cert.
that's what those quality control questionaires are for....
It sounds to me like you would greatly benefit from an hour or two one on one with an instructor (in the water). I bet the problem would be solved in just a few minutes.
When I got certified, I had a lot of trouble with the 60' one breath swim NAUI required. I ended up hiring a local swim instructor. I don't remember what it cost, probably close to $100 for an hour. Maybe less. What I do remember is that it took him about 90 seconds to teach me the necessary skill. I had tried the skill 4 or 5 times with the scuba instructor (each on a different night) and just couldn't pull it off.
Not that I'm suggesting you need a swim instructor instead of scuba. I just think you need a little one on one to get it done.
One thing's for sure. If you're going to be a scuba diver, you've got to get past this hurdle.
When I got certified, I had a lot of trouble with the 60' one breath swim NAUI required. I ended up hiring a local swim instructor. I don't remember what it cost, probably close to $100 for an hour. Maybe less. What I do remember is that it took him about 90 seconds to teach me the necessary skill. I had tried the skill 4 or 5 times with the scuba instructor (each on a different night) and just couldn't pull it off.
Not that I'm suggesting you need a swim instructor instead of scuba. I just think you need a little one on one to get it done.
One thing's for sure. If you're going to be a scuba diver, you've got to get past this hurdle.
Belzelbub
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No argument there. That’s why I have two OW certs. I did not dive between cert 1 and cert 2 because I was really not comfortable with it.
Can’t say I recall getting one, but my first course was back in 1990, so not sure if they were doing them.
Diverlady13
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I don't recall getting a questionnaire from PADI, but it sounds like it would be a good idea for everyone to be asked to fill one out. I guess the problem though, with questionnaires, is that students/newly certified divers often don't know the actual requirements. So a student might think their instructor was fantastic and give good answers to PADI only to find out later that they are really didn't get the best training. If my instructor hadn't specifically stated it, I wouldn't have known that the CESA is required to be done at 20+ feet. She was awesome, but also a real stickler (in a good way) for the requirements. Reading the threads about certification here on ScubaBoard has made me very appreciative of the instruction I did get. It's a shame, and also dangerous, that some instructors are willing to bypass the guidelines. One would think that all would want to be turning out capable divers. Maybe they do, but are under pressure from their employers to get people certified.
Some of these issues could be solved by asking specific questions on the eval, i.e. "did you perform a CESA from a depth of at least 20 feet?"
Diverlady13
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Absolutely agree. Hopefully the newly certified diver was paying attention and remembers - or doesn't try to cover up for a less-than-stellar instructor. Of course nobody can control that.
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