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Any updated timeline for the Deep 6 computer

Discussion in 'Deep 6 Gear' started by JohnN, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. LandonL

    LandonL ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Pricing has yet to be determined, but obviously importation and duties have to be considered. You can't compare the retail price of a product in its home region to abroad.
     
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  2. scubadada

    scubadada Diver Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    So...I guess this is correct, the new Deep 6 computer will be a rebadged divecomputer.edu, but at a somewhat higher price. I guess we will see. Not what we were all expecting.
     
  3. LandonL

    LandonL ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Honestly, that isn't what I was saying, I am just generally commenting on how prices don't directly translate between markets.... thank governments and logistics for that.

    But yes as far as the old puck computer design is concerned, it has been dropped. Chris explained why above in a pretty concise post. It basically came down to case problems, other products entering the market at that price point, and having missed the window of opportunity.

    I am quite shocked at some of the reactions we have gotten. The product did not live up to our expectations, and we refuse to bring a product into production that we do not feel meets our standard. What is the alternative? Release a crap product for people to buy and then complain about more? We really like to include people in our decisions and development, we really like to share what we have going on, but I am beginning to feel like this is ending up as a case of 'no good deed goes unpunished' and maybe we should consider no longer posting about any of our development projects.
     
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  4. scubadada

    scubadada Diver Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    You have to admit, an inexpensive computer running Buhlmann with preset GFs would have been quite a draw. We'll all have to decide about your new offering
     
  5. oc in az

    oc in az Angel Fish

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    I think it's cool that you shared the development process with everyone here. You were honest when things started to change and now on to 'Plan B' or whatever. Love your products and your business model! Thanks for sharing!
     
  6. DavidFL

    DavidFL Wide-eyed nube in the Pub ScubaBoard Supporter

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    It's a double-edged sword as you have very directly experienced. Very competent, successful, experienced people will tell you to get customer reactions and involvement at the earliest possible point. Other very competent, successful, people will ask "why would I ask a customer what he/she wants or thinks?" and go on to great success.

    I'm going to expose my vulnerability here and admit I was a huge fan of Google Glass. My son was one of the very first Glass 'explorers', and I couldn't wait to get Google to shut up and take my money. The amount of complaining and carping on the Glass threads in various forums, especially Google+, was amazing. And the overall public reaction to 'glassholes' did, I think, take them a little by surprise. I know absolutely that several key members of the Glass team felt deeply affronted by the public reaction. In the end, Google pulled the plug (causing a major mutiny by the Glassfans), at least on the consumer version. (Glass for Business) is still underway as far as I know. In the end, the people who control the capital decided it wasn't a product they should take to market at scale at that time. The owners get to decide those things, and the customers vote with their dollars. Doesn't appear to me that the Glassfans boycott has hurt Google (now Alphabet) at the macro level, at least if the share price is any indication.
     
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  7. JohnnyC

    JohnnyC PADI Pro

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    Huh, I'm seeing it for 545 Euro's, it doesn't show up as 466 Euros for me anywhere. Freaking weird. Maybe it's because I'm on a Mac :rant:. It's much more appealing at $545, but like Landon mentioned, even as an individual purchaser, you'd be paying duty on the import. As a distributor, it's not like they get to skip out on that stuff because they're buying 100 at a time. I think keeping it affordable would be the biggest hurdle.

    That being said, as long as it's not up in Perdix territory, I can see a good sized market for the computer, provided it lives up to their advertising. If they can do it for a reasonable price, I'd certainly be interested. I like my Shearwater's well enough, but if I can get the same performance with as appealing an interface, but at a reasonably lower cost, it's worth a look. And i think people just getting into technical diving but aren't sure they want to keep going to full trimix, rebreather, etc., a less expensive option would be a good thing, then again I'd be willing to bet that the Perdix is used on far more recreational dives than it is technical, especially with AI as an option.
     
  8. LandonL

    LandonL ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Yes, but it ran RGBM, the project was axed before we could get to that part. :)

    Hopefully it will get a good reception.

    Thanks! :)


    Certainly is a double edged sword.... I remember Google Glass, I even considered getting one just to play with after it's demise. The Glass device for business is actually something entirely different, it is more of a work productivity tool, showing people assembly videos and such on assembly lines. Entirely different beast. Honestly I think the negative reactions and responses from some of the glass fans helped hasten the demise of the product, at least as a end user device. I imagine the vitriol from the public was a point of discussion in the meeting to axe it.
     
  9. scubadada

    scubadada Diver Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    From their website this morning. Of course there is a message that it is not available in my country (yet, :)). $541 at today's rate.
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  10. ls1dreams

    ls1dreams Nassau Grouper

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    I was mostly just looking forward to an affordable dive computer that could run buhlmann instead of rgbm/z+. That was the difference across the entire marketplace. I don't think you can even get a buhlmann 16 based dive computer for cheaper than $700 or so right now?

    With that said I'd love to see something that lands in the mid-tier range... not as expensive as a $1000 teric, but maybe something with a good screen, buhlman, and AI. I'm not sure how possible $400-500 would be for something like this, but it feels like it should be possible.

    Hopefully if Deep6 uses that divecomputer.eu polish model they update the UI. It's pretty ugly from the screens I've seen.
     
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