Anyone w/ Scoliosis?

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cowprintrabbit

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I have mentioned having scoliosis in previous threads, I think; but I just talked to a Dr. that thinks I need surgery and it's got me a liitle shook up. I was on a "watch" for it to get worse, and well, yup, 5 degrees in the last 3 years...

Has anyone here had any kind of fusing/surgery for scoliosis? Has it affected your diving or other areas of your life? Negatively, positively; major or minor? How long was your recovery? (read: how long before you were cleared to dive :D)
 
cowprintrabbit:
I have mentioned having scoliosis in previous threads, I think; but I just talked to a Dr. that thinks I need surgery and it's got me a liitle shook up. I was on a "watch" for it to get worse, and well, yup, 5 degrees in the last 3 years...

Has anyone here had any kind of fusing/surgery for scoliosis? Has it affected your diving or other areas of your life? Negatively, positively; major or minor? How long was your recovery? (read: how long before you were cleared to dive :D)

I should preface this by saying I'm not a doctor and this should not be taken as medical advice.

My sister has had two operations for her (rather serious case) of scoliosis. One was 20 years ago or so and one was a few weeks ago. I guess the real answer to your question depends on where and how the decide to fuse but in my sister's case the recovery is going fairly quickly; it will probably be a matter of a couple of months. You're lucky you're having this done now because 20 years ago the operation was much more involved and the recovery times were dramatic.

In terms of sport, the back is fused so you lose some mobility with all of the consequences entailed in that. For scuba diving I would be most concerned about the lifting but other than that I can't see why the actual diving would present any big problems.

R..
 
Thanks - talked to too many doctors already, looking for real life experience like yours...

I'm thinking I will have to have my gear lifted in/out of the water for a while.

I'm glad she's doing well - keep me updated, if that's OK?
 
A mentor of mine is an Orthepedic Surgeon specialising in scoliosis surgery. From what he's told me, weight lifting and flexibility are the main concerns. That being said, if your doctor approves, you should be alright for diving. Remember, the aquatic environment is ideal for MSK problem rehab (less stress); you might just have to modify things a bit. Best of luck.
 
cowprintrabbit:
I have mentioned having scoliosis in previous threads, I think; but I just talked to a Dr. that thinks I need surgery and it's got me a liitle shook up. I was on a "watch" for it to get worse, and well, yup, 5 degrees in the last 3 years...

Has anyone here had any kind of fusing/surgery for scoliosis? Has it affected your diving or other areas of your life? Negatively, positively; major or minor? How long was your recovery? (read: how long before you were cleared to dive :D)

Here's what Scubadoc offers:

"Probably the main concern with diving with scoliosis is the possibility of decreased pulmonary function. Scoliosis varies considerably in the extent of the curvature. Some cases are so severe that the chest cavity is distorted and the affected person can have abnormal lung function. This would need to be assessed carefully to be sure that you don't have any airway obstruction that could possibly lead to barotrauma or a "burst lung."

Another concern would be possible injury to the spine from lifting heavy weights and tanks. Proper gear fit, degree of physical capacity and cardiac reserve (the ability of the heart to handle stressful situations) might also play a part in your decision to dive.

You will likely have more difficulty with gearing up, entries and exits, but this difficulty disappears in the relatively gravity-free environment of the sea. The advice of your personal physician should be sought with these factors in mind."

This is consistent with what DAN has to say on the subject:

"Condition: Scoliosis
Description: This condition is an abnormal curvature of the spine. Various degrees of scoliosis result in a range of symptoms, from pain to neurological problems to difficulty in breathing.

Fitness and Diving: Severe spinal curvature can result in pulmonary compromise, making even moderate exercise impossible. The abnormal posture seen in individuals with scoliosis may require equipment modification to allow donning and optimal balancing, with special weight-bearing considerations or restrictions.

With scoliosis, the individual may experience neurological abnormalities continuously or intermittently. Muscles near the spine can develop asymmetrically with scoliosis: overuse leading to muscle strain can result in significant back pain and spasm. The spasm can cause a pinching in the nerves coming out of the vertebral column, resulting in a new neurological deficit.

Correction of severe scoliosis can employ the placement of steel rods to support vertebral column when it is straightened to improve function and symptoms. Once healed, an individual may resume diving, but at a moderate pace. Mild cases of scoliosis are found sometimes during routine exams and have little or no impact on the person. Before making plans to dive, individuals with severe scoliosis should be evaluated by a physician knowledgeable in dive medicine."

Best regards.

DocVikingo
 
cowprintrabbit:
Thanks - talked to too many doctors already, looking for real life experience like yours...

I'm thinking I will have to have my gear lifted in/out of the water for a while.

I'm glad she's doing well - keep me updated, if that's OK?

This is just a thought--I hope an encouraging one for you--but the nice thing about diving is that it's a real leveler in terms of physical ability. There shouldn't be anything stopping you from achieving anything you want in diving whereas your condition may hold you back a bit in a lot of other recreational sports....

R..
 
My dive buddy/partner has two curves of scoliosis. As a child, she was trained as a synchro swimmer as PT. She dove for many years in Cuba (no certs) and only recently was NAUI certified. The OW instructor (diferent from the classroom instructor) was not very accommodating of her on-surface needs. She is still, a few weeks later, recovering from the tank-carrying/full-gear-march issue. She is really turned off of diving in the States and very angry about the whole experience. And yes, she is a good diver with good sense, and a great deal of *muscle* strength. She just has a crooked spine.

The issue was that we were rushed to complete the cert dives due to bad weather. (I have several of my own issues with that weekend...the first being that the instructor hadn't checked the weather prior to the trip). She was barely able to walk in full gear even on the handicapped ramp. I don't think it would have been that big of a deal for me (or her, or a DM) to bring down her gear to the entry point and let her suit up there, or to let her suit up in the water. She also was weighted out in a lopsided manner, which she complained about. Meanwhile, I was in the position of trying to help her preserve her dignity to the point of major distraction (left some of my own gear at one site) and she was PUT into the position of holding up the whole shooting match, to the point of other OW students with resort course experience making snotty, passive aggressive comments about holding up the line, which the instructor did nothing to discourage.

We made lots of jokes about starting our own "handicrap" dive club, overt reminders about her scoliosis, etc., to no avail. I got the sense that I was filed under "overly-worried" and she was filed under "drama queen."

I left off dive leadership progression ten years ago, and I'm hoping to start training in HSA, which is something I've wanted to do since I started diving. I just wanted to remind everyone to BE AWARE that some disabilities are NOT visible and require accommodation and simple human consideration. When someone in otherwise good shape is stuck on the steps like a beached whale because she can't physically lift herself to a seated position, she's probably not working on her suntan--especially in neoprene on a rainy day.
 
Hi uwslate,

The thread to which you just responded is from mid-Oct of 2004. The original inquirer, "cowprintrabbit,", hasn't visited the board since early Nov of 2006.

As such, you may wish to email or PM the original poster as it seems rather unlikely that she is still following this discussion.

Regards,

DocVikingo
 
Thanks, Doc...saw that. Just was hoping someone else in similar predicament might have advice and wander in...
 
DocVikingo:
Hi uwslate,

The thread to which you just responded is from mid-Oct of 2004. The original inquirer, "cowprintrabbit,", hasn't visited the board since early Nov of 2006.

The original poster last visited the board on Friday. She is probably reading threads, but just not posting. I agree that a PM might be helpful, however.
 
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