RickH
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Just wondering if there are any worthwhile places to do a beach dive between Long Beach and Laguna Beach?
Beach dives between Long Beach and Laguna Beach?
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None I have heard of.
Does not mean they don't exist, I just have not heard of them. Looking at what you have, in the area, sand, no kelp or real rock stucture and popular surfing beaches of Huntington Beach, Bolsa Chica, etc.
So my guess is the area is not good diving. But I could be wrong.
Does not mean they don't exist, I just have not heard of them. Looking at what you have, in the area, sand, no kelp or real rock stucture and popular surfing beaches of Huntington Beach, Bolsa Chica, etc.
So my guess is the area is not good diving. But I could be wrong.
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Never dove it myself, but check out this article about Newport Pier...
Featured Article - Newport Pier
Featured Article - Newport Pier
Besides Newport Pier, there is Corona del Mar, Little Corona and Crystal Cove State Beach just west of Laguna Beach.
http://www.shorediving.com/Earth/USA_West/CalM/index.htm
http://www.shorediving.com/Earth/USA_West/CalM/index.htm
Never dove the Newport Pier but did read the article. Seems interesting.
Crystal Cove - When there is visibility it is a terrific dive, but the conditions have to be perfect, small waves and good vis which is rare. It is also just 5 minutes from Laguna Beach.
Corona Del Mar - famous for bad vis.
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There are many many great places to beach dive between Long Beach and Laguna Beach.
Max Bottom Time is a very experienced diver and knows the coast very well, so follow his advice.
In the mean time a little more insight published in SB on October 31st, 2007, about Newport pier...
NEWPORT BEACH PIER-TRAIN
Last spring I was contacted by some one on this board regarding the train that was sunk off Newport pier many years ago, unfortunately I can't recall the name of the gentleman. Since I have never seen the train featured in any articles and with apologies to Sir Robert Service "a promise made is a debt unpaid," I will submit the following for all:
The Newport pier, therefore "the train" is a seasonable diving area, and the spring and summer months are certinly NOT the season for diving that area, . This is based on the following; the prevailing summer swell is from the south -right into the pier, there is excessive traffic during the summer, the Dory fleet, the surfers and certainly the elbow to elbow fisherman on the pier, with hooks baited for young juicy divers.
Now, during the fall and winter monthsand especially during the santanas is an ideal safest season to dive the pier. Please be aware there is generally a alongshore drift so it is advisable to enter the water on the left side of the pier, directly in exit path of the Dorys, swim on the surface until fishermen are encounter, submerge under the pier and swim out under the pier to avoid fishermen.
If the Lifeguard station is manned it is always adviseable to check in and advise them of your dive plan. They are all surfers/divers and very knowledgeable of the conditions and may advise to abort the dive.
Swim almost to the end of the pier and the remains should be visible under the pier on the left side directly under the cleaning station. Sadly a portion of the train was removed some years ago by a newly minted PADI instructor teaching salvage and he took the parts home ! (?. ) However there should be enough remaining to recognize it as a train a to create the event as a diving adventure.
If the conditions are ideal the truly adventurous may want to proceed out beyond the end of the pier to depth of about 80 plus feet into the Newport canyon where the remnants of the box car wheels rest..Yes, Newport has a canyon-but mostly mud.
Reverse the procedure on the return to shore.
In the event the dive visibility is less than ideal the pilings and the bottom are a treasure trove. Every inch is covered with debris and or marine life, including the ever present fish hooks and mono fishing line, however the lines are on occasion attached to a discarded fishing pole. On numerous occasions legal lobsters have been taken in the pilings..So there is some thing for every one..the adventure diver, the junk collector, the photographer and the hunter.
Additional information maybe found in "Diving West," 1972, (first California dive guide) OC section, Miller & Merker, "Great piers of California," Jean Femling, 1984, and an article by Dave Haldane (not related to THE Haldanes!) in either the OC Register or the LA Times of many many moons ago.
The Newport Pier and the train are indeed one of the best keep secrets of OC diving, however, it is not with out hazards and needs a certain amount of prepration, skill and the ideal time to dive, but it does afford an unique underwater adventure. Where else in the world can you dive on a train?
Be careful when you dive it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Max Bottom Time is a very experienced diver and knows the coast very well, so follow his advice.
In the mean time a little more insight published in SB on October 31st, 2007, about Newport pier...
NEWPORT BEACH PIER-TRAIN
Last spring I was contacted by some one on this board regarding the train that was sunk off Newport pier many years ago, unfortunately I can't recall the name of the gentleman. Since I have never seen the train featured in any articles and with apologies to Sir Robert Service "a promise made is a debt unpaid," I will submit the following for all:
The Newport pier, therefore "the train" is a seasonable diving area, and the spring and summer months are certinly NOT the season for diving that area, . This is based on the following; the prevailing summer swell is from the south -right into the pier, there is excessive traffic during the summer, the Dory fleet, the surfers and certainly the elbow to elbow fisherman on the pier, with hooks baited for young juicy divers.
Now, during the fall and winter monthsand especially during the santanas is an ideal safest season to dive the pier. Please be aware there is generally a alongshore drift so it is advisable to enter the water on the left side of the pier, directly in exit path of the Dorys, swim on the surface until fishermen are encounter, submerge under the pier and swim out under the pier to avoid fishermen.
If the Lifeguard station is manned it is always adviseable to check in and advise them of your dive plan. They are all surfers/divers and very knowledgeable of the conditions and may advise to abort the dive.
Swim almost to the end of the pier and the remains should be visible under the pier on the left side directly under the cleaning station. Sadly a portion of the train was removed some years ago by a newly minted PADI instructor teaching salvage and he took the parts home ! (?. ) However there should be enough remaining to recognize it as a train a to create the event as a diving adventure.
If the conditions are ideal the truly adventurous may want to proceed out beyond the end of the pier to depth of about 80 plus feet into the Newport canyon where the remnants of the box car wheels rest..Yes, Newport has a canyon-but mostly mud.
Reverse the procedure on the return to shore.
In the event the dive visibility is less than ideal the pilings and the bottom are a treasure trove. Every inch is covered with debris and or marine life, including the ever present fish hooks and mono fishing line, however the lines are on occasion attached to a discarded fishing pole. On numerous occasions legal lobsters have been taken in the pilings..So there is some thing for every one..the adventure diver, the junk collector, the photographer and the hunter.
Additional information maybe found in "Diving West," 1972, (first California dive guide) OC section, Miller & Merker, "Great piers of California," Jean Femling, 1984, and an article by Dave Haldane (not related to THE Haldanes!) in either the OC Register or the LA Times of many many moons ago.
The Newport Pier and the train are indeed one of the best keep secrets of OC diving, however, it is not with out hazards and needs a certain amount of prepration, skill and the ideal time to dive, but it does afford an unique underwater adventure. Where else in the world can you dive on a train?
Be careful when you dive it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sdm
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I miss my copy of Diving West. It was one of the many things my ex wife kept. She loved the Keepin' Critters section.
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Well the Newport Pier sounds like something fun to try....if it weren't for the fishermen. Something about being "the catch of the day" doesn't seem very appealing to me. But maybe one day I'll try it.
Guess Laguna Beach will still have to be the "local" dive spot.
Guess Laguna Beach will still have to be the "local" dive spot.
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Keepen Kreepers! Wow!
Yep, it was certainly a popular article--there has never been another one published quite like it
"Diving West" was published in 1972- 37 years ago! You are showing your age and demonstrating your longevity in the sport...
Thanks for recalling the wonderful past..sdm
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