caveseeker7:Two innerspaces signing up within 10 minutes, are you both of them?
And why pick Innerspaces name if youre so hot for the CCR2000. I for one was all excited for a moment that Steve or Leon joined the board ...
Somehow I think you ganna take a lot of flak for your post.
I would have hoped that with your reputable souce and personal experience youd be the one giving insights. Mil-spec is fine for the military, but tends to be rather expensive and in some cases useless for civilians. MK16 list for close to $60K, I sure am not paying for a non-magnetic RB. Ever tried to get Inconnels filled at an average dive store, or travel with them? Technically illegal to cross state lines without DOT, and for just about every airport sreener they look like the coyotes ACME bombs.
ISO9000, fine I guess. But doesnt cover the global market. For Europe CE is needed,
and I doubt the CCR2000 will pass. With welded spherical tanks? Single backmounted counterlung? Yeah, right. So much for global. From what I understand NATO accepted the CE standard, too, so NATO forces are probably also out.
The last CCR2000 I saw was this summer, the price had come to $9,900. With just one display. I wouldnt dive a CCR with a single display if it went for 99 bucks. Making a convinience optional, like ADVs on Megalodon, Inspiration amd Evolution is one thing,
but the display? Not for me! If the managed to make that rig trim they changed a lot.
Is competition plural or did you refer to APD and forget the ?
Prism - one standard, easily available 9V battery in a sealed 1 ata compartment outside the loop, the secondary runs off the O2 cells.
MK16 - same set-up, different battery.
Megalodon - 2 batteries in 2 sealed 1 ata compartments inside the loop.
Inspiration - 2 batteries inside 1 non-sealed compartment in the loop at ambient pressure. The least desirable of the four, but by the time the battery compartment gets flooded the scrubber is, too. The batteries are the least of your worries and you bailout.
Integrated computer issues? What issues youre talking about?
Parts availability? Youre kidding, right? I doubt that the CCR2000 will start out with the dealer (or instructor) infra structure that the Inspiration has. Remeber the removable breathing loop, that you can conviniently take with you on your vacation and rent the rest of the rig? Care to tell us about all the places you have been to and done that?
Then compare that number with places that offer Inspiration training, parts and supplies.
And with the size and weight I last saw you better be able to just take the loop. Wanna travel with your CCR? Take the Prism or the Mini Meg. Maybe the Evo.
8 hrs. duration tested and certified by whom? NEDU/NAVSEA? DERA? At what depth, temperature and breathing volume? What size scrubber? Or is this a RB80 like distance So-and-so dove it for that-and-that amount of time the other day.
Feel free to submit independent testing data, or have Olympic Submarines (or whoever builds the rig these days) post them.
Exactly what I meant with my answers regarding a single display and dubious scrubber duration. What Inspiration hype?
Price is a factor for most people. It sucks, but few have endless means. If it is not for you, look into the new Infinto, or the legendary Cis-Lunar. Last I saw the CCR2000 didnt have a hydrophobic membrane around the scrubber. Or an integrated OC/DSV. Nor a HUD. Nor ...
When the VR3s cell craps out you switch to ppO2 calculation without a cell and watch your two(!) handsets/3 cells to make sure theyre at the computers setpoint. The Inspiration also gives you the Hammerhead option with dual displays, currently one and soon two integrated trimix deco computers. Thatll be the standard to beat. (Hammerhead batteries are in the handsets, by the way). All that aside, any sane diver, at least extended range diver, carries tables as back-up. Don't you?
So does the Hammerhead, and with two independent computers and controllers, plus the patented DIVA. Steam Machines is working on an integrated computer with HDD display of all computer data. The Evolution and later the Inspiration also offer integrated computers. Innerspace Systems Corp. is working on theirs, too. With some luck itll be powered by the Hammerhead, I sure hope so. All of those run off the three sensors in the loop.
Actually, the Inspirations reputation is less than pefect, so its probably pretty close to reality. No other CCR has such a (good and bad) track record. Hence, the reputation is probably not far from the reality.
If extended range diving is what you consider technical, youre way off base. Have a look at ZeroG reports and profiles. (No CCR2000s on that trip, I wonder why?). Trevor Jacksons wreck trip to 177m a few years ago. Theyre used on wrecks and in caves all the time, probably a lot more than CCR2000s.
Professional diving? Not many RBs used there, thats usually surface supplied diving. I doubt they even teach RB diving in commercial diving schools (I know they dont in Santa Barbara). So well see if the CCR2000 changes all that.
If you have any testing reports and data to share, feel free and do so. Im sure youll find plenty of people here intrested.
Stefan
This is the unit that failed many times 2 NJ divers came out of the water about as straight as a 3 dollar bill. I understand they are VERY lucky to be alive. It started in Wash. state and bounced around for a while with options hard pack, 2 or 3 different soft packs??
Just more RB bull****, to bad