Divemaster worth it if not going to work in industry?

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It sounds like you are at a point a lot of newer divers find themselves at. They try diving, find they enjoy it, but aren't sure how to proceed further.
At this point you sort of face two pathways. One is industry described, in which each progression is marked by taking a course of some sort - diving defined by an endless series of classes.

The other pathway is, as many have suggested, to just go out and dive. Spend some time in the water, doing what divers do, having a direct interaction with those surroundings. Even at OW depths, the underwater landscape is vast and populated by a lot of interesting things. Buy an identification book or two, try to look up what you see. If you have your basic skills down, buy a camera or GoPro and take some pictures. After putting in time just diving you will discover what speaks to you and then you can pursue education in that direction, but then you will be guided by your own internal direction instead of what someone else tells you you should do.

I think doing DM right out of the gate is a little nuts. Not to insult anyone but I sometimes think it is a way to avoid being a small fish in a big pond, huddling around familiar sites and faces and dive shops. How can one possibly lead people in an activity without first gaining experience doing that activity. Diving offers so much more than that if you can let go of the handholding and seek it.
 
I am in the same boat myself...... I have about 43 dives, AOW, NITROX, and am taking my Master/Rescue class at the moment! The bug has bitten me pretty bad!

That said I have taken all my classes through my university and will be graduating this May. My instructor approached myself and another student about continuing by becoming DM's. Initially I was on the fence but the more I think about it I think I'm going to do it! My main reasoning is that I will still be in the area after graduation and would like to help with classes/checkout dives. I think it would be really cool to "give back" to the program and my alma maeter. While becoming a better diver.

That said though I would highly reccomend getting out and diving! Plus taking AOW before taking the plunge so to speak.

Goodluck!


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Hi

I while back I wrote about this in my blog here on Scubaboard. Heavens! - haven't done that in ages - I really should get back to it. Anyway I copy/pasted the content for your convenience, as I really haven't got anything new to add to it.

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If what you're going to say may cause offence or disappointment, it's only fair to give a due warning. As such I should probably say that this blog entry is going to be akin to a cold bucket of water for people considering going pro. It may very well cause you to reflect on the value of professional diver education, it may disappoint you, and it may cause you to reconsider if you're planning on becoming a divemaster for the wrong reasons. What I'll be writing about is PADI education. Not because PADI courses are bad, (in fact I think most are very good and I'm pleased to be a PADI instructor myself,) but because PADI divemasters and instructors form the backbone of recreational diving in my part of the world. Other agencies and diveshops affiliated with these agencies have identical or similar practises however, so keep in mind that while the courses and programs I'll be discussing will be PADI, it could just as well be SSI or another agency. Lastly I should say that it's not my intention to bash any agency, but to have a candid discussion based on published and readily available figures.

Some people decide they want to become divemasters when they're doing their rescue diver course. Perhaps their instructor suggests they should go this route. Other people set out on a journey that takes them straight from open water diver to divemaster, the not so flatteringly named zero-to-hero route, and It can all be done in as little as a few weeks.

However if you've made it to PADI rescue diver, you've probably noticed that there's a very definite sales-pitch at the end of every course. If you've done the Open Water, you really should do the Advanced course. If you're doing the advanced course, why stop there? Move on to rescue. As a rescue-diver, you should seriously consider becoming a dive master and so on. This isn't something vile or inherently bad, it's done in all industries. You buy a car, you'll probably want some insurance to go with it, or how about a nice leather interior or a shiny GPS navigator? Put it another way: Everyone who has something to sell, is interested in additional sales. As a PADI instructor I make my living selling to people - sure some people walk in from the street and ask to do this or that course, but if I want to earn money next week too, I'd be stupid not to ask if they'd be interested in upgrading their license, joining a nitrox class or whatnot.

Personally I don't find selling like this distasteful. I would if what I sold was crap, but I genuinely believe the courses are good. People are happy paying for instruction when they feel they get something worthwhile out of it. Nitrox and rescue courses for example are just rock solid courses, where people learn something valuable, but when we start talking about professional levels of diver education, things start getting a little fuzzy. The marketing of professional courses, both from official side and very often also from the individual instructors out in the shops and resorts, sadly just doesn't reflect reality in my opinion.

The pretext is that you can quit your boring job and become a dive professional living a priviledged life of aquatic adventure on a white sand beach. The truth is that you can, if you've got the funds to support you as you do so. Nine out of ten won't make enough to live off. Nine out of ten won't make enough for their return flight. Nine out of ten won't make enough for professional insurance and certainly won't make enough to replace their gear when it wears out. The one that does make it, not only has very good sales and language skills, he is most likely also blessed with a fair bit of luck. Being at the right place at the right time and meeting the right people account for how a lot of my diving colleagues landed themselves their jobs. It's also why I'm still in the industry. (The average lifespan of an instructor is roughly two years, before he hangs up his fins.)

If you don't believe me, let me show you some statistics. PADI issues a little less than a million certifications every year. (923,571 in 2010, the last year PADI has published data on) Also in 2010 PADI had 135,038 members. That's divemasters, assistant instructors, and upwards in the PADI instructor echelon. Remember, only professionals are members of PADI, although many beginning divers have the misconception they are PADI members because they've done a PADI course.
Now PADI used to to publish which percentage of their members had which qualifications, but it would seem this info isn't readily available anymore. Going alone on memory here, there's around 100,000 members who are at least Open Water Instructors, although many of course have a higher rating. This is important, because with a few insignificant exceptions, only Open Water Scuba Instructors and upwards are allowed to issue certifications. So if you actually sit down and do the math, each instructor, in average, only gets around nine certification in a year! Hardly enough to make a living you'll probably agree.

Now consider that successful dive shops have instructors who issue hundreds if not close to a thousand certifications in a year. That cuts down on what's left for you. Also consider, that a lot of the PADI marketing scheme is feeding the dog its own tail. Some of the people who do the most courses, are fellow professionals. There's tons of instructors who get at least half a dozen specialties, a staff instructor rating, or the pat-on-the-back-well-done ratings of MSDT or Master Instructor. All of these count as another certification, although some of them doesn't actually involve any instructors doing any work. It doesn't generate any money or work for any instructors, but it does count as another certification.

So why is the pretext that you can live as scuba instructor so predominant. Well, possibly because the people who have paid up already, are trying to make back their investment, but certainly because there's good money in taking a budding diver all the way to the top. Many places in Asia a typical DM course goes something along these lines. A few weeks into the course it's discussed how difficult it is to find work as a divemaster, but that as an instructor you'll be much more employable, because you can do both divemaster AND instructor work. Then once the student is on his way to becoming an instructor, he's told that, quite frankly, there's just so many instructors, that it's almost hopeless to get employed without a bit of experience. Fortunately, if you'll just pay a little more, you can do an internship as an instructor (where you not only pay for the chance to work, you also ensure the shop won't have to hire an instructor.) Then once you have a number of certifications under your belt, the course director convince you to get a bunch of specialties, as it just makes you much more employable, and it will make you a MSDT.
Guess what, once you're a MSDT, you can't get any work because the next bunch of instructors are already paying the shop to work for free! However, there's no reason to despair yet because there's a thing called IDC-staff instructor, and if you get that course, you can assist the course director on the instructor courses. It's great fun, and not terribly expensive. And then, surely you'll be more employable. Only when you have the IDCSI qualification, you discover that you'll have to pay to actually assist on courses, and thus, almost at the very top of instructor-ratings you are still paying others for a chance to work for them.

It really is a very good business plan, and it's executed with great precision and flair by the people who make their living doing it.

So, does that mean you shouldn't become a divemaster? Well, that's entirely up to you of course - there can be a ton of valid reasons to do so. It may look cool on your CV, it'll no doubt make you a better diver, you'll have fun doing the course, you'll learn a lot of interesting stuff and you may get lucky if you mention it in bars with non-divers and share the story of how you fought the great white shark
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. But unless you're outstandingly lucky and skilled, you can safely forget about making any money on it, and taking the next course, and the next course after that won't change that. Because, - at the end of the day - people in this industry are not only willing to work for free, they are willing to pay for working.
 
I have my open water certification with 30+ dives. Just quit my corporate job and have some free time on my hands. Was considering going for my dive master certification somewhere warm. Looked like about 8 week investment and around $2800. Might be doable. But I don't really need the certification and I don't really plan on working in the industry. I just want to do a bunch of diving and keep my costs down. Is it worth it? Or am I better off just going somewhere cheap like Utilla or Thailand for a month?

A guy I know "quit his corporate job" and went down to Utila to do some diving. I don't know what dive cert he held, but I suspect he was just OW or AOW, and so he decided to do Rescue there. Then, as so often happens, the island bug bit him, and he decided to stay on and do the Divemaster course. He ended up staying on and going for Instructor and getting a job with one of the dive ops there. He stayed for several years.

You never know. Take it one step at a time. Go do some diving and see how you feel.
 
I kind of plan maybe on becoming a divemaster simply to take time off my job (that actually pays money) and go for a season to some Caribbean destination and dive for cheap while "working." Also, if I'll move to S. Florida, some businesses take you as a DM on weekends and you dive for free. I know there will be no money made but it can open some other avenues where money can be saved. I have not made any decision yet but it is a possibility.
 
Though I'm at the bottom of the ladder, I have seen enough in various places to say that sierrakilo hits the nail on the head. Being a DM is great if you make enough to pay for your membership, insurance, gas, and have a bit left over. AND if you enjoy it. For money I advise the safe route. That's one big reason I became a band teacher instead of trying to make it playing clarinet.
 
I have my open water certification with 30+ dives. Just quit my corporate job and have some free time on my hands. Was considering going for my dive master certification somewhere warm. Looked like about 8 week investment and around $2800. Might be doable. But I don't really need the certification and I don't really plan on working in the industry. I just want to do a bunch of diving and keep my costs down. Is it worth it? Or am I better off just going somewhere cheap like Utilla or Thailand for a month?


Hi Salt :)

Generally, you would like to log as many dives as possible and at value for money to suit your budget? How about Sabah in Borneo?

We offer fantastic value for money internship programs at our premier PADI 5 Star IDC Dive Centre on Gaya Island, which is situated in the protected Tunku Abdul Rahman Park only a few minutes speedboat ride from mainland Kota Kinabalu.

PADI Divemaster | IDC Asia

Click on the link above to find out what the PADI Divemaster course involves, and you will note as you read through the material, that the dive training can be completed in 10 days and its corresponding internship is a one month program. So there’s plenty of time for you to take advantage of the UNLIMITED scuba diving within the parameters of the marine park, and our interns also get a discount on other dive travel packages we offer at our tours and travel centre.

I am one of the members of the Go PRO team who are dedicated to the dive training of all our professional internship programs. Past internship candidates decided to gain more experience in diving by developing their skills from the recreational to the professional and the insight is worth it to become a more confident and safety-conscious diver. Many of our candidates who wish to make their diving dream come true will naturally progress to become a PADI Open Water Scuba Instructor (OWSI), which we also offer another one month internship program to complete the PADI Instructor Development Course (IDC).

PADI IDC | IDC Asia

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I kind of plan maybe on becoming a divemaster simply to take time off my job (that actually pays money) and go for a season to some Caribbean destination and dive for cheap while "working." Also, if I'll move to S. Florida, some businesses take you as a DM on weekends and you dive for free. I know there will be no money made but it can open some other avenues where money can be saved. I have not made any decision yet but it is a possibility.
I don't want to downplay the "free diving" too much if you head to S. Florida as a DM but, having watched the typical DM drift toting the ball and not really getting to spend time participating actively in the dive, I'm not sure it would be exactly the experience you are looking for. If you're happy just getting wet, maybe that's ok with you. If you like taking time to explore nooks and crannies in the reef, it may not be what you are looking for.
 
Have you factored in yearly cost of liability insurance with having a DM? That is roughly $400 to $500 per year.
 
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